Tesla should seek to oust Elon from the company. He’s ruining it. Cybertruck, falling sales, and important people heading for the exits.
Tesla should seek to oust Elon from the company.
They can't. The only thing propping up the ludicrous stock price is the myth of "Elon Musk, Super genius" and the legions of Musk fanboys. If they kick Musk out they lose both and the stock will tank. So they've got to keep him in place, even as he runs the company into the ground.
The myth is gone.
It's not. He even has defenders on Lemmy. Say that he has no experience as an engineer when it comes to cars and rockets and they come crawling out of the woodwork with quotes from people who worship him saying he's totally an engineering genius.
“But he had the brilliant idea to use robots in automotive manufacturing!” /s
I have a handful of tankie capitalism and "democracy" loving, American "traditional" leaning and religious Republican coworkers who absolutely still believe that he's a genius. They feel that way about other billionaires too.
Edit: TIL that "tankie" doesn't mean "capitalism and 'democracy' loving, American 'traditional' leaning and religious Republicans." I guess the shorthand for that is just "stereotypical conservative."
A Tankie is a Communist who likes Stalin's method of achieving communism.
I think you were looking for the word "ancap" instead.
That there’s a bootlicker.
Are your tankie friends buying tesla vehicles?
Edit - real question. I have doubts his neo nazi/ libertarian followers are buying EVs because they seem to actively want to harm the environment as much as possible.
I'm genuinely curious what the tankie demographic is like. I could see them as off the grid solar/battery doomsday prepper types.
That’s lovely, but conservatives aren’t the market for solar panels and electric cars.
Judging by the stock value - not at all. Enough ppl are THAT optimistic.
Stock value can take a very long time to adjust. Once consumers and institutions buy a stock, they can't sell it easily. It's either a loss to sell it if they bought at a peak so they wait it out or if it's up and they want out, selling needs to be spread out to limit capital gains tax. If it's an institution with a large holding, it will cause the stock to drop before they're out.
Mostly agree, but. As far as I understand it, for TSLA the majority of the bull run is due to relatively small investors riding the hype. Big stakes are indeed rare to change hands, and mostly outside the marketplaces. Should the small guys really change their mind on the stocks, they (or at least the first wave) will easily dump it, and that will move the market by a lot.
We can probably see it in YTD results, but still there is no dumping, in my opinion. Just a correction, so far.
Personally would not buy now, though )
Yeah but his fart sucking fan boys still thing he's a genius.
It is weird to have a "thing" about someone who thinks that is "the actual truth" about you.
It also has nothing to do with his shitty cars.
Thanks for confirming my point.
Do you own a Tesla? Of course not but you feel the need to tell me about mine. That’s an Elon hater in action.
When you en one then you can tell me about them
I didn't say anything about your Tesla, I didn't even know you owned one.
That’s an Elon hater in action.
Dude, Elon hates me.
Because of who my parents and their parents were.
Well don’t invite him over for dinner then. That’ll teach him.
What are you even talking about?
Nothing will "teach" an antisemite.
It still has nothing to do with his shitty cars and I still didn't know you owned one.
But it does reveal what kind of person you are that you casually dismiss Musk's overt bigotry as if it is a "don't invite him to dinner" sort of thing.
Yes. If you can’t separate a man from a product then it’s weird. If you obsess over his wealth it’s weird.
Liking a car says nothing about Elon. I believe in the environment and it’s the best electric car on the market.
Hating a billionaire for causing the world to be a worse place is not "obsessing over wealth". That's quite literally just bootlicker rhetoric to shield the billionaire class. Fuck all billionaires, but especially Musk.
There are so many better options out there that don't encourage the board to keep a racist, sexist, rightwing nut job in charge. It's not 2018 anymore, I encourage you to take a look at other options.
The last uber I was in was a Tesla (a Model Y) and it felt like the door was going to come off when I closed it. Not to mention the lack of buttons and the fact that you have to turn your body 45° and look down to see your current speed. Is that really the "best electric car on the market"? I really don't think you'd be saying that if you were actually willing to explore the market and leave the walled garden.
Thanks. I’ll stick my Tesla I’ve tried other electric cars and they are not comparable at all.
Yeah, I doubt that, seeing the rest of your comments here and seeing your post history. Maybe in 2018?
Anyway, sure, keep supporting a racist, sexist, rightwing man child. Even if they were "the best electric cars" on the market (they really aren't), I would avoid them just because of Musk. I wouldn't be able to publicly display the fact that I gave my money to a blood emerald mine owner's racist, sexist nepo baby.
I hope your ignorance never wanes so that you can continue to live in your fantasy land. 🙏
Tesla should seek to oust Elon from the company. He’s ruining it. Cybertruck, falling sales, and important people heading for the exits.
They can't. The only thing propping up the ludicrous stock price is the myth of "Elon Musk, Super genius" and the legions of Musk fanboys. If they kick Musk out they lose both and the stock will tank. So they've got to keep him in place, even as he runs the company into the ground.
The myth is gone.
It's not. He even has defenders on Lemmy. Say that he has no experience as an engineer when it comes to cars and rockets and they come crawling out of the woodwork with quotes from people who worship him saying he's totally an engineering genius.
“But he had the brilliant idea to use robots in automotive manufacturing!” /s
I have a handful of
tankiecapitalism and "democracy" loving, American "traditional" leaning and religious Republican coworkers who absolutely still believe that he's a genius. They feel that way about other billionaires too.Edit: TIL that "tankie" doesn't mean "capitalism and 'democracy' loving, American 'traditional' leaning and religious Republicans." I guess the shorthand for that is just "stereotypical conservative."
A Tankie is a Communist who likes Stalin's method of achieving communism.
I think you were looking for the word "ancap" instead.
That there’s a bootlicker.
Are your tankie friends buying tesla vehicles?
Edit - real question. I have doubts his neo nazi/ libertarian followers are buying EVs because they seem to actively want to harm the environment as much as possible.
I'm genuinely curious what the tankie demographic is like. I could see them as off the grid solar/battery doomsday prepper types.
That’s lovely, but conservatives aren’t the market for solar panels and electric cars.
Judging by the stock value - not at all. Enough ppl are THAT optimistic.
Stock value can take a very long time to adjust. Once consumers and institutions buy a stock, they can't sell it easily. It's either a loss to sell it if they bought at a peak so they wait it out or if it's up and they want out, selling needs to be spread out to limit capital gains tax. If it's an institution with a large holding, it will cause the stock to drop before they're out.
Mostly agree, but. As far as I understand it, for TSLA the majority of the bull run is due to relatively small investors riding the hype. Big stakes are indeed rare to change hands, and mostly outside the marketplaces. Should the small guys really change their mind on the stocks, they (or at least the first wave) will easily dump it, and that will move the market by a lot. We can probably see it in YTD results, but still there is no dumping, in my opinion. Just a correction, so far.
Personally would not buy now, though )
Yeah but his fart sucking fan boys still thing he's a genius.
They also won't because they are hand selected by Musk. 2 out of 3 board members share his last name.
The other is the alleged director of the board after Musk was forced to vacate the position. All indications are that she is his puppet.
That's what they said about apple too and they have done pretty well without Jobs, although their quality and vision have suffered.
Far different scenario since Apple didn't have much choice and Jobs left them with a product pipeline that wasn't garbage
You didn't look back far enough.
2nd times the charm in Apples case.
What’s that you say? The stock will tank?
Ousting him would be hard. He owns a significant amount of stock. I like the cybetruck
That said they need to talk him into a less visible role. Hire a real cto and put him in charge of secret projects
The board is all his buddies. That will prevent any real change.
How’d that meeting go? Alright, we’re going to take everything that made the DMC Delorean absolutely useless but add batteries!
At the original price I would have bought one. At the current price, most likely will pass.
if they see their own investment dwindling, they will give him a golden parachute.
And he'll go "That guy is now the CEO, I realized that I have to focus my time on (space)X, he will continue my vision"
One could hope. I love Tesla. Great technology. Great cars. Just need an adult to run it.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/25/21302804/tesla-ranks-last-on-influential-jd-power-quality-survey
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/report-75-of-tesla-model-3-owners-would-buy-again/
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-makes-it-into-consumer-reports-top-3-most-loved-car-brands-209891.html
So people who drank the Kool-Aid love the shitty car? Who would have guessed?
No, people who own them like them. I get you have weird thing about Elon but to me it’s a car.
What is my "weird thing" about Elon?
Is it that he thinks that I'm both a fake white person and am oppressing real white people? Because he says that's the actual truth.
It is weird to have a "thing" about someone who thinks that is "the actual truth" about you.
It also has nothing to do with his shitty cars.
Thanks for confirming my point.
Do you own a Tesla? Of course not but you feel the need to tell me about mine. That’s an Elon hater in action.
When you en one then you can tell me about them
I didn't say anything about your Tesla, I didn't even know you owned one.
Dude, Elon hates me.
Because of who my parents and their parents were.
Well don’t invite him over for dinner then. That’ll teach him.
What are you even talking about?
Nothing will "teach" an antisemite.
It still has nothing to do with his shitty cars and I still didn't know you owned one.
But it does reveal what kind of person you are that you casually dismiss Musk's overt bigotry as if it is a "don't invite him to dinner" sort of thing.
Is it really a weird thing?
Yes. If you can’t separate a man from a product then it’s weird. If you obsess over his wealth it’s weird. Liking a car says nothing about Elon. I believe in the environment and it’s the best electric car on the market.
Hating a billionaire for causing the world to be a worse place is not "obsessing over wealth". That's quite literally just bootlicker rhetoric to shield the billionaire class. Fuck all billionaires, but especially Musk.
There are so many better options out there that don't encourage the board to keep a racist, sexist, rightwing nut job in charge. It's not 2018 anymore, I encourage you to take a look at other options.
The last uber I was in was a Tesla (a Model Y) and it felt like the door was going to come off when I closed it. Not to mention the lack of buttons and the fact that you have to turn your body 45° and look down to see your current speed. Is that really the "best electric car on the market"? I really don't think you'd be saying that if you were actually willing to explore the market and leave the walled garden.
Thanks. I’ll stick my Tesla I’ve tried other electric cars and they are not comparable at all.
Yeah, I doubt that, seeing the rest of your comments here and seeing your post history. Maybe in 2018?
Anyway, sure, keep supporting a racist, sexist, rightwing man child. Even if they were "the best electric cars" on the market (they really aren't), I would avoid them just because of Musk. I wouldn't be able to publicly display the fact that I gave my money to a blood emerald mine owner's racist, sexist nepo baby.
I hope your ignorance never wanes so that you can continue to live in your fantasy land. 🙏