If Start menu ads in Windows 11 aren't bad enough, something worse might be on the horizon

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Sounds like we need to start developing ad-blockers based directly within the OS.

Those exist. Use dns based adblockers. You can pick from a variety of services already out there or run your own with pihole.

Yeah, though ... those don't always work and it is entirely possible to break them if they become overly "pesky" for the corporations.

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I'm pretty sure you can turn these off with local group policy. And if you can, I'm sure someone will make a script to do it for you.

Personally, I set up AD for my own devices a long time ago, when I got pissed off about Windows 10 rebooting my PC while I'd stepped away to eat dinner and killing everything I had open. So I also use it to set group policy to turn off things like this. But this is far overkill for the average person.

Or literally just use the existing option in the settings menu that has been there since Windows 10 to turn this shit off.

All of this is clickbait.

Until it turns itself back on during an update. Or hey implement another version that has its own off switch buried somewhere, etc.

It’s bloat and hassle.

You shouldn’t have to do maintenance on a brand new Windows install. Set preferences and install apps? Sure. But expecting everyone to go through a checklist of shit to turn off? Nah. That’s user hostile and so tedious.

Checklists and debloating procedures like that can feel like something an expert would do. And can feel like what a good computer user should do, but that’s a limited mindset that is a niche among all Windows platform users.

Warning, car analogy:

Imagine if you bought a new car and had to scrape a bunch of advertisement decals off it. And you have to remove unneeded features like spoilers that are dragging you down. Oh, and randomly in the middle of the night the dealer tracks your car down and applies new decals that you will want to scrape off your windshield when you get a chance.

Other than the dealer sneaking up in the middle of the night to reapply decals, that is sadly exactly what buying a new car is like.

Or, well, at least from what I've seen and heard from others. Who has money these days for new cars?

Setting preferences is exactly what this is, though.

Having to tell your computer that “My preference is no bloat and marketing.” is a sad state of affairs though.

My whole point is these things shouldn’t need to be configured. Because the bloat and marketing shouldn’t be part of the OS like this.

I've worked with a Linux installation that had plenty of bloat and marketing by default too, I spent a fair bit of time combing through it turning off stuff I definitely didn't want. Whether it "should" or "shouldn't" doesn't change that it is.

But updates can and do reset them.

Group Policy really helps - I don't think I've had an update reset a policy... Yet.

Imagine depending on a company giving you the privilege of turning off ads in the operating system you paid $100USD for.

MS can get bent, I’m sick of advertising. Read the news, ads, watch any video without Adblock, ads, go out in public to enjoy a day out with my family, ads on every road and square foot of space. Now they want to put ads on the main menu of an operating system I only use to for relaxation and entertainment, but they were oh so kind to give me the option of turning them off for now. I’m not waiting for them to decide to remove the option, I’m going to remove myself from the equation.

I already gave these greedy bastards my money, I just want some peace and quiet while I relax, but that’s too much to ask for these days.

Yep. It's my goal to be as unprofitable a citizen for our corporate overlords as possible.

I want them to lose money by doing business with me.

I want them to go bankrupt so that their future replacements can learn from their mistakes and not repeat them.

If they choose to be user hostile, I'll match their energy and multiply it. Fuck em.

Clicking a checkbox in a settings menu is so complicated, though!

Simpler to install Linux, a whole new operating system, and try to figure out how to either run your Windows apps there or find new equivalent applications to use.

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