After mice drink raw H5N1 milk, bird flu virus riddles their organs

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After mice drink raw H5N1 milk, bird flu virus riddles their organs
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There's not much of a reason to drink milk nowadays anyway. Oat milk has become so good in emulating the taste of cow milk that there's just no point in going for the original product with all its massive downsides.

Please give me recommendations of oat milk that tastes good. I’ve been desperately looking and/or hoping for bacterial production to kick off to make it more environmentally sustainable, but I haven’t found anything that tastes remotely as good (on its own or in a latte). I drink ultrafiltered milk for what it’s worth, usually 2% so I don’t need the creamy aspect, I just like the flavor.

For me, Planet Oat's milk is pretty good, but their "Barista Lovers" version is the most like regular milk to me. It's really white and acts the most like regular milk. This should just be the default milk they make, to be honest. It's somewhat hard to find, unfortunately, but they have a map at their site that can help.

https://planetoat.com/products/barista-lovers-oatmilk/

I think I’ve tried this before but will give it another shot, maybe I just got the regular one.

I wonder too if there are genetic differences at play. Like folks that taste cilantro differently.

Anyways if it’s 90% as good as milk then that’ll be good enough for me to switch haha, thanks!

You're welcome!

I hope you like it. I end up buying a couple of cartons every time I'm in the store, ha.

US based here. Saaaame, I didn't like Planet. I get Plant Folk oatmilk from Sam's club, and I now detest anything more thick or savory than that. If anything, Plant Folk's a little watery compared to most oat milks I tried locally.

I don't know what is available where you're living. I buy the Vemondo No Milk from my local Lidl. The name comes from the fact that we cannot legally call those milk alternatives "milk", so a lot of brands now go with "no milk" or "not milk" instead of "oat drink". lol

They have a Barista oat milk too but I found that one to be not that great, so I can at least encourage you to try different companies & product lines even within the same company.

I've personally found pea milk to be the substitute that most closely resembled cows milk in taste and texture.

The main reason to drink milk is not taste. It's the perfect mix of macros for growing kids. Plant based drinks cannot come close to real milk for nutrition.

I have yet to find a milk substitute that pours the same way, specifically over cereal, but even into a glass. Dairy milk holds itself together fairly well, but non-dairy milk tends to splatter all over the place.

It's a minor inconvenience that in no way counters said downsides of dairy milk, but it's a frequent reminder that it's not the same.

Real milk contains emulsified lipids. It's the reason for its unbeatable texture.

Shake a jug of oak milk and nothing changes. Shake a jug of whole dairy milk and eventually you'll have butter.

Pour a tablespoon of vinegar into oat milk and it tastes bad. Pour a tablespoon of vinegar into whole dairy milk and you'll be straining ricotta cheese out of it in no time.

Dairy is superior. There's some strong competition out there, but all the plant milks just wish they were dairy.

Most oat milks now include emulsified lipids for this reason. Oatly foams up to a head better than whole milk. You can't make butter out of it, but I doubt you're making butter from your milk at home anyway.

I actually do make my own butter. I buy discount creme from Grocery Outlet and churn it into butters of differing protein concentrations. I end up with yellow and white butters, depending on what temperature I churn at.

I then infuse them with herbs and spices, and sometimes clarify them into ghee.

It's about the same price as regular butter, but it takes more work and is of higher quality.

Only if your tastebuds have failed completely. You probably smoke or have killed your sense of taste by other means if you believe that.

Yo these people both disagree and downvoted you... They are crazy if they think plant juices taste anything close to milk without having defective taste buds.

Oat milk tastes better than cow milk and I'll die on this hill. The only reason I don't drink it regularly is because it's so much more expensive than the subsidized option

The price for oat milk is a scam. The ingredients to make 1 liter of oat milk costs about 10 cents. The rest is profit milked off the gullible.

No and no. But your ad hominem really opened my eyes to how wrong i was.

I actually agree with Treczoks about them not tasting remotely the same.

My wife gets the extra creamy oat milk. I can easily tell it's not regular milk, and it's just not for me. I honestly tried to like it.

It's a matter of finding the right one, as I've already explained in my other comment. Either way, not a reason to get personal.

I didn't get personal. Sorry if you took it personally.

I'm talking about the guy that I reported which I would've guessed is how you got to this comment.

Ah yeah. Please explain how that is a personal attack. They surmised that something must be affecting your taste buds if you find that the two drinks taste the same. That would be an accurate summation if they feel the two taste very dissimilar.

You probably have brain damage if you believe that this was merely a summary.

Does it start to make sense? My taste buds are fine. I just aren't some close minded dumbo who has to lash out at everyone because they've actually sampled various products before forming their opinion.

Need any more help in where we're getting at here? I don't know if I can make it any more obvious.

I understood from the outset. Have a great day!

So all news subs fail to moderate because of Tankie loving or just gross carelessness. Great. All blocked now. The fuck is the point of this place if you're about as shitty or even worse than Reddit. Clownery.

the modlogs show that we do take action, but only when justified. Just because you feel something is justified, that doesn't mean you're right.

A report doesn't mean you'll get what you want. Moderators will review the report, and see if it has merit.

Insulting us is the best way to make us do our job /s