the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
the whole premise of this right is that we can't trust the government to keep our liberty safe because they could become the tyrants. if one day some religious idiot comes into power who doesn't want women learning math, you may end up glad that conservatives have made it easier for women to fight for their liberty by refusing to allow these rights to be eroded
Religious tyrants have gotten into power, they are forcing women into service as incubators. Nobody sane has taken up arms against the government. It is the "conservatives" who are fighting at the ballot box to erode our liberties and human rights.
"Conservatives" want to elect an openly racist demagogue who already committed a putsch and is asking SCOTUS to hand him a Long Knife.
LOL "conservatives" refusing to allow rights to be eroded. Yeah buddy, the women are going to force their way into math class holding the teacher at gunpoint.
things are bad now. it doesnt mean they cant get worse
I agree. Hopefully people don't vote for the "conservatives" who do keep making everything worse.
I'll remind my daughter next time she calls me having a panic attack during an active shooter lockdown that at least she still has the right to love who she wantsmake her own reproductive healthcare choicesget IVF if she can't have kidsbe open and honest about who she is
teach your daughter to use weapons, allow weapons in schools, and let her destroy anyone who attacks her.
i am sorry religious idiots are taking away her rights. these idiots are luring in many supporters because they support the second amendment. liberals need to start being pro-gun and get these religious idiots out of power
Are we in a civilized society, or a warzone?
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
This is a complete fiction, a true American mythology that exists in the modern day.
The right to bear arms was more about homestead defense against indigenous natives and foreign invading armies than it was for any kind of poison pill for Americans to topple their own government if they woke up one day and decided they don't like who's in charge anymore. The very notion that the founders would set up a new system of governance but be okay with the idea of baking in gun ownership rights to ensure that the people will always be able to conduct a violent insurrection as the vehicle for regime change is absurd.
Everybody likes to ignore the "well-regulated militia" part of that amendment, conveniently ignoring that a well regulated militia would answer to the state or the federal government, the very force of tyranny that they claim they need the guns to defend themselves against.
Conservatives would be the first to call anyone participating in the uprising unamerican and would be more likely to form reactionary militias supportive of the fascist government than to overthrow anything
Hadis Najafi was a feminist. A world hero. I hope one day in a brave new feminist world, she has a holiday. I wish I had met her. I'd give anything to have met her. I don't believe in an afterlife, but if heaven were real I would get to meet her. How can one person be so courageous?
She fought without being armed because she was a hero and she couldn't not fight. She had enough and said fuck it, I know I'm going to die and don't care. Although she said "I like to think that when I think about this a few years later I'll be pleased I joined the protest" I believe a part of her new she could die, I think this was something she said to comfort herself. Heroes fight even when the odds aren't great. I wish I could become a good and courageous person like her.
You think it's bad now?
Don't be myopic. This is a woman who would have been a hero with our without weapons, but she could have done more if she had the right to bare arms.
Yes, it matters and the NRA matters and feminism matters and the solution is making sure women have more and larger guns and better tactical training.
No the NRA doesn't matter, right wing support of weapons doesn't matter. The left wing support of weapons matters.
Is there such a thing? Is there a left wing organization battling for the rights of women to own any weapon she pleases? If so, please enlighten me on this.
Unsurprisingly the political organization whose power comes from private funding is the one backing right wing fascist bullshit. You're not going to find a left wing organization with the same resources because it won't have corporate political backing.
Anarchists and other leftists (leftists, not liberals) are typically pro-gun and for the reasons you mention
one day, in a world full of female scientists who rule the world, it may become irrelevant, an anachronistic right that no one even really uses
I agree with the first part. It was supposed to be a check and balance to government power and oppression. It gives people the power to fight back against injustice.
However, in the time of intercontinental missiles, planes, tanks, and remote operated drones, are a bunch of peasants with guns actually going to do anything if the government turned on its people? Does the "right to bear arms" not extend to other, non-gun weapons?
Yeah, you're bringing guns to an unmanned drone fight.
Guns would at least cause some difficulty oppressing people.
you get it
/looks around - That doesn't seem to be the case. A.I. has a better chance of repositioning the social locus of control.
Gun owners are literally the most cowardly people on the planet
Yous are scared of your own fucking shadows
"Whatcha scared of, coward?" "Uh, just other cowards is all" 😂
I don't own a gun. I'm from a country where it's not an option. To assume makes an ASS out of u and me.
Your point is bullshit. Not all people are good. Rapists exist. Serial killers exist. I'd like some options if I ever ran into one.
Imagine a world in which men could not own guns...
But women and intersex persons were given as many guns as they wanted for free.
What would it be like?
Probably better.
yes, only people with the luxury of owning guns could not understand the terror of being unarmed
just because conservatives fight for a right doesn't mean it's bad. this is the 1 thing conservatives are right about
the problem is liberals don't take this as opportunity to promote more female gun ownership and tactical training. a society of armed women is a society of women who will learn math and possess their own bodies
Afghanistan.
If ever there was a case for "more guns = more freedom", right?
Taliban or not, the peasants made it impossible for both Russia and the US to hold for any period of time using a pretty ancient rifle.
I think the IEDs, suicide bombers, and RPGs made a bigger difference in both cases
Well, of course it wasn't just the rifle. But my point was that low-tech armaments (and terrain to an extent) didn't make it a walk in the park no matter how high-tech your military. You still have to hold it.
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
And yet, it’s the would-be tyrants who are armed to the teeth.
this is why more young feminists need to support gun ownership and learn how to use weapons
women should be able to choose what they want to wear, the type of weapons they want to own, and what to do with their bodies
the NRA needs to stop being thought of as conservative and liberals need to embrace the NRA
Why are you insisting we turn everything into an active war zone
Guns are for weak people who want to feel powerful.
guns are for vulnerable people who want to ensure their own safety.
Nice theory, but owning a gun makes you less safe, not more. You are way more likely to be hurt by your own gun than successfully using it to defend yourself.
you don't know my circumstances or anyone else's.
It has nothing to do with circumstances, it’s plain statistics. Look up the numbers.
your statistics don't know who i live with, who lives next door, or how corrupt my government is. and, as samuel clemons said, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
What is it with Americans that they seem so be so afraid all the time. You see danger everywhere. Life now is safer than it has ever been in the history of humanity.
there are more slaves now than ever in history. there are more prisoners, more prisons, more cartels, more police (but i repeat myself). i won't tell you how you may keep yourself safe. please return the courtesy.
All of those things are because there are way more humans today than ever in absolute numbers. The percentage of people who die a violent death has never been as low as it is now, and that includes people dying in war.
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
Don't you have that backwards? Gun ownership is a luxury enjoyed by an enfranchised society enjoyed exclusively by people who don't feel threatened?
Because I remember a whole era of us domestic policy that revolved around targeting POC and other marginalized groups with gun regulation, while letting white nationalist groups run rampant.
Gun rights strike me as a political fiction. You only really get to enjoy them if you're not threatened by over-policing. As soon as you start asserting those rights against a government bureaucrat, they vanish.
i think there should be zero regulations on POC owning guns and all POC should have a natural right to ownership
Wouldn't it be nice...
The government has set up all mechanisms to target any resistance group trying to organise a violent revolution
Unless one man is going to take down the throne, guns will hardly achieve anything.
Conservatives in power currently want to take away a woman's right to a divorce. Your argument literally moves the Overton window to the right even further.
And giving tyrants access to a standing army is immoral in itself.
i disagree, but love the way you write, i wish i thought differently just so i could agree with someone who writes like this
i think we need women to be able to have access to weapons to prevent the hell of women being sold as chattel which happens in some countries. none of the women sold as chattel have good weapons.
if i were a hero, i would go to these places, even if it were alone, and likely to face torture and death, to try to free them
i don't do this because i am not a hero.
Bro thinks meal team six is going to stop the government lol. They are already taking our liberties. Why didn't guns save us during banning abortion? Why are guns not helping us defend our freedom of speech? Do you think some random authoritarian fucks are legitimately willing to fight the government over political differences? What liberties have they not taken already, or that they cannot take? If in some unrealistic scenario where the boomers won a small fight in some small town, do you think the government would just let them be? Do you not think the authoritarian fucks would use their guns to defend the government vs fight against it? They already use their votes to suppress our liberties, I have no doubt they'd choose to use their guns too.
the right to bear arms exists to protect people from tyrants
the whole premise of this right is that we can't trust the government to keep our liberty safe because they could become the tyrants. if one day some religious idiot comes into power who doesn't want women learning math, you may end up glad that conservatives have made it easier for women to fight for their liberty by refusing to allow these rights to be eroded
Religious tyrants have gotten into power, they are forcing women into service as incubators. Nobody sane has taken up arms against the government. It is the "conservatives" who are fighting at the ballot box to erode our liberties and human rights.
"Conservatives" want to elect an openly racist demagogue who already committed a putsch and is asking SCOTUS to hand him a Long Knife.
LOL "conservatives" refusing to allow rights to be eroded. Yeah buddy, the women are going to force their way into math class holding the teacher at gunpoint.
things are bad now. it doesnt mean they cant get worse
I agree. Hopefully people don't vote for the "conservatives" who do keep making everything worse.
I'll remind my daughter next time she calls me having a panic attack during an active shooter lockdown that at least she still has the right to
love who she wantsmake her own reproductive healthcare choicesget IVF if she can't have kidsbe open and honest about who she isteach your daughter to use weapons, allow weapons in schools, and let her destroy anyone who attacks her.
i am sorry religious idiots are taking away her rights. these idiots are luring in many supporters because they support the second amendment. liberals need to start being pro-gun and get these religious idiots out of power
Are we in a civilized society, or a warzone?
This is a complete fiction, a true American mythology that exists in the modern day.
The right to bear arms was more about homestead defense against indigenous natives and foreign invading armies than it was for any kind of poison pill for Americans to topple their own government if they woke up one day and decided they don't like who's in charge anymore. The very notion that the founders would set up a new system of governance but be okay with the idea of baking in gun ownership rights to ensure that the people will always be able to conduct a violent insurrection as the vehicle for regime change is absurd.
Everybody likes to ignore the "well-regulated militia" part of that amendment, conveniently ignoring that a well regulated militia would answer to the state or the federal government, the very force of tyranny that they claim they need the guns to defend themselves against.
Conservatives would be the first to call anyone participating in the uprising unamerican and would be more likely to form reactionary militias supportive of the fascist government than to overthrow anything
Hadis Najafi was a feminist. A world hero. I hope one day in a brave new feminist world, she has a holiday. I wish I had met her. I'd give anything to have met her. I don't believe in an afterlife, but if heaven were real I would get to meet her. How can one person be so courageous?
She fought without being armed because she was a hero and she couldn't not fight. She had enough and said fuck it, I know I'm going to die and don't care. Although she said "I like to think that when I think about this a few years later I'll be pleased I joined the protest" I believe a part of her new she could die, I think this was something she said to comfort herself. Heroes fight even when the odds aren't great. I wish I could become a good and courageous person like her.
You think it's bad now?
Don't be myopic. This is a woman who would have been a hero with our without weapons, but she could have done more if she had the right to bare arms.
Yes, it matters and the NRA matters and feminism matters and the solution is making sure women have more and larger guns and better tactical training.
No the NRA doesn't matter, right wing support of weapons doesn't matter. The left wing support of weapons matters.
Is there such a thing? Is there a left wing organization battling for the rights of women to own any weapon she pleases? If so, please enlighten me on this.
Unsurprisingly the political organization whose power comes from private funding is the one backing right wing fascist bullshit. You're not going to find a left wing organization with the same resources because it won't have corporate political backing.
Anarchists and other leftists (leftists, not liberals) are typically pro-gun and for the reasons you mention
one day, in a world full of female scientists who rule the world, it may become irrelevant, an anachronistic right that no one even really uses
I agree with the first part. It was supposed to be a check and balance to government power and oppression. It gives people the power to fight back against injustice.
However, in the time of intercontinental missiles, planes, tanks, and remote operated drones, are a bunch of peasants with guns actually going to do anything if the government turned on its people? Does the "right to bear arms" not extend to other, non-gun weapons?
Yeah, you're bringing guns to an unmanned drone fight.
Guns would at least cause some difficulty oppressing people.
you get it
/looks around - That doesn't seem to be the case. A.I. has a better chance of repositioning the social locus of control.
Gun owners are literally the most cowardly people on the planet
Yous are scared of your own fucking shadows
"Whatcha scared of, coward?" "Uh, just other cowards is all" 😂
I don't own a gun. I'm from a country where it's not an option. To assume makes an ASS out of u and me.
Your point is bullshit. Not all people are good. Rapists exist. Serial killers exist. I'd like some options if I ever ran into one.
Imagine a world in which men could not own guns...
But women and intersex persons were given as many guns as they wanted for free.
What would it be like?
Probably better.
yes, only people with the luxury of owning guns could not understand the terror of being unarmed
just because conservatives fight for a right doesn't mean it's bad. this is the 1 thing conservatives are right about
the problem is liberals don't take this as opportunity to promote more female gun ownership and tactical training. a society of armed women is a society of women who will learn math and possess their own bodies
Afghanistan.
If ever there was a case for "more guns = more freedom", right?
Taliban or not, the peasants made it impossible for both Russia and the US to hold for any period of time using a pretty ancient rifle.
I think the IEDs, suicide bombers, and RPGs made a bigger difference in both cases
Well, of course it wasn't just the rifle. But my point was that low-tech armaments (and terrain to an extent) didn't make it a walk in the park no matter how high-tech your military. You still have to hold it.
And yet, it’s the would-be tyrants who are armed to the teeth.
this is why more young feminists need to support gun ownership and learn how to use weapons
women should be able to choose what they want to wear, the type of weapons they want to own, and what to do with their bodies
the NRA needs to stop being thought of as conservative and liberals need to embrace the NRA
Why are you insisting we turn everything into an active war zone
Guns are for weak people who want to feel powerful.
guns are for vulnerable people who want to ensure their own safety.
Nice theory, but owning a gun makes you less safe, not more. You are way more likely to be hurt by your own gun than successfully using it to defend yourself.
you don't know my circumstances or anyone else's.
It has nothing to do with circumstances, it’s plain statistics. Look up the numbers.
your statistics don't know who i live with, who lives next door, or how corrupt my government is. and, as samuel clemons said, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.
What is it with Americans that they seem so be so afraid all the time. You see danger everywhere. Life now is safer than it has ever been in the history of humanity.
there are more slaves now than ever in history. there are more prisoners, more prisons, more cartels, more police (but i repeat myself). i won't tell you how you may keep yourself safe. please return the courtesy.
All of those things are because there are way more humans today than ever in absolute numbers. The percentage of people who die a violent death has never been as low as it is now, and that includes people dying in war.
that's cold comfort for slaves
there you go again, assuming things you don't know about me.
So enlighten me.
How many people do you need to kill in self defence, in an average week?
none so far, and id like to keep it that way, but there is no reason i or anyone else should become a victim for a lack of self defense tools.
Don't you have that backwards? Gun ownership is a luxury enjoyed by an enfranchised society enjoyed exclusively by people who don't feel threatened?
Because I remember a whole era of us domestic policy that revolved around targeting POC and other marginalized groups with gun regulation, while letting white nationalist groups run rampant.
Gun rights strike me as a political fiction. You only really get to enjoy them if you're not threatened by over-policing. As soon as you start asserting those rights against a government bureaucrat, they vanish.
i think there should be zero regulations on POC owning guns and all POC should have a natural right to ownership
Wouldn't it be nice...
The government has set up all mechanisms to target any resistance group trying to organise a violent revolution
Unless one man is going to take down the throne, guns will hardly achieve anything.
Conservatives in power currently want to take away a woman's right to a divorce. Your argument literally moves the Overton window to the right even further.
And giving tyrants access to a standing army is immoral in itself.
i disagree, but love the way you write, i wish i thought differently just so i could agree with someone who writes like this
i think we need women to be able to have access to weapons to prevent the hell of women being sold as chattel which happens in some countries. none of the women sold as chattel have good weapons.
if i were a hero, i would go to these places, even if it were alone, and likely to face torture and death, to try to free them
i don't do this because i am not a hero.
Bro thinks meal team six is going to stop the government lol. They are already taking our liberties. Why didn't guns save us during banning abortion? Why are guns not helping us defend our freedom of speech? Do you think some random authoritarian fucks are legitimately willing to fight the government over political differences? What liberties have they not taken already, or that they cannot take? If in some unrealistic scenario where the boomers won a small fight in some small town, do you think the government would just let them be? Do you not think the authoritarian fucks would use their guns to defend the government vs fight against it? They already use their votes to suppress our liberties, I have no doubt they'd choose to use their guns too.