Price of ARM chips has gone up. Price of x86 has come down. x86 comes with a small energy penalty for a huge boost in speed. Also just a more versatile architecture, since most servers run x86.
I love ARM so much compared to x86, but speaking from a low-cost consumer server perspective, x86 is a great value, and it comes with a no compromises on software compatibility.
That's the biggest thing. apt install xyz works on my N100 based box every time I expect it will, but it was always a crapshoot on a Pi. If you don't need GPIO you don't need a Pi.
Don't forget also the app support, a lot more apps support x86, than ARM.
That's what I was referring to about versatility
ARM boards are just a pain to use right now. There's always some stupid quirk or driver problem and that's if you even manage to find an up to date image for your chosen OS that works (because I can just about guarantee the 'generic ARM' one won't). Feels like every few months someone announces something that'll make all these problems go away yet here we are.
It does seem more likely to not have dumb problems when you have a sane x86 bootloader.
I find it interesting, manufacturers of laptops and maybe even desktops, are looking to switch to arm after decades of x86.
And home servers, which have run on arm for years, are now switching to x86
What is the difference between x86 and X86?
The fact that X86 came after a full stop so his phone auto capitalised it.
I see I got confused as he capitalized the X in the middle of the first sentence as well and thought I had missed something
Didn't even see that one. Probably just a missclick.
That is probably it, I just wanted to check if there was something new happening
Autocorrect 😛
Could you install older windows systems on a single board x86? Like maybe xp? Or windows 7?
Why would you want to?
Because I don't like Windows 10, and Windows 11 seems like a privacy nightmare.
And Windows XP and 7 are a security nightmare without any support.
Not too long until Windows 10 joins the list and that’s gonna be a real nightmare because there are so many PCs still running Windows 10 that run perfectly fine but aren’t "capable" or running Windows 11. People won’t just throw away their PCs and they can’t upgrade to 11. Sure, some will try Linux but too many won’t and they’ll be easy targets.
My main PC is Windows 7. About 10 years ago I remember I had to do something with the firewall. I remember turning it off. I legit do not remember if I turned it back on.
I really hope you’re joking because that’s a security nightmare.
I think most of us moved on to x86 by now.
Price of ARM chips has gone up. Price of x86 has come down. x86 comes with a small energy penalty for a huge boost in speed. Also just a more versatile architecture, since most servers run x86.
I love ARM so much compared to x86, but speaking from a low-cost consumer server perspective, x86 is a great value, and it comes with a no compromises on software compatibility.
That's the biggest thing. apt install xyz works on my N100 based box every time I expect it will, but it was always a crapshoot on a Pi. If you don't need GPIO you don't need a Pi.
Don't forget also the app support, a lot more apps support x86, than ARM.
That's what I was referring to about versatility
ARM boards are just a pain to use right now. There's always some stupid quirk or driver problem and that's if you even manage to find an up to date image for your chosen OS that works (because I can just about guarantee the 'generic ARM' one won't). Feels like every few months someone announces something that'll make all these problems go away yet here we are.
It does seem more likely to not have dumb problems when you have a sane x86 bootloader.
I find it interesting, manufacturers of laptops and maybe even desktops, are looking to switch to arm after decades of x86.
And home servers, which have run on arm for years, are now switching to x86
What is the difference between x86 and X86?
The fact that X86 came after a full stop so his phone auto capitalised it.
I see I got confused as he capitalized the X in the middle of the first sentence as well and thought I had missed something
Didn't even see that one. Probably just a missclick.
That is probably it, I just wanted to check if there was something new happening
Autocorrect 😛
Could you install older windows systems on a single board x86? Like maybe xp? Or windows 7?
Why would you want to?
Because I don't like Windows 10, and Windows 11 seems like a privacy nightmare.
And Windows XP and 7 are a security nightmare without any support.
Not too long until Windows 10 joins the list and that’s gonna be a real nightmare because there are so many PCs still running Windows 10 that run perfectly fine but aren’t "capable" or running Windows 11. People won’t just throw away their PCs and they can’t upgrade to 11. Sure, some will try Linux but too many won’t and they’ll be easy targets.
My main PC is Windows 7. About 10 years ago I remember I had to do something with the firewall. I remember turning it off. I legit do not remember if I turned it back on.
I really hope you’re joking because that’s a security nightmare.