So, anyone else wonder if the plan for Republican controlled states here is to chase all of the left leaning people out, bolstering their majority stranglehold in certain states and sacrificing things like talented doctors/nurses/teachers/etc. for an electoral college advantage? Literal tyranny of the minority? Hmm?
No, you need to think bigger. They want to change the constitution. I'm being completely serious.
I know exactly what you're talking about, and you're right (shit, that article is from a whole year ago?!), I should have thought of that! This is some serious shit, like I was just kind of being "tin-foil-hat-y" with my comment, but they're way ahead of me.
Jesus Herbert Walker CHRIST, this is a huge fucking problem!!
ETA: "The power to call for a convention belongs solely to state legislatures, who would pass and ratify amendments without a governor's signature, Congress' intervention, or any input from the president."
FUUUUUUUCK
It’s not even tin foil hat-y. The Republican Party is a fascist political party that has a desire to overthrow the US government and replace it with a Christian Fascist dictatorship with active plans for genocide. It’s alarmist until it isn’t, they are being completely transparent about their intentions. They know they aren’t the majority, so they want to kill enough people to make sure they never lose and change the government to make their killings legal.
Well damn, I haven't had a pit in my stomach feeling like this since 2016. This is so fucked...
Good thing the only people they killed with their COVID stance was their own.
I mean yeah everyone was hit, but they went out of their way to make sure their own people were hit the hardest.
Did you just call half of your country fascists?
Rep voters =/= Rep politicians. I would say the ~27% of people that identify as Republican support fascist-like policies, even if they don't think of them as fascist. The Rep party itself is definitely neo-fascist. They even use the same rhetoric as the Nazis and white nationalists (focusing on degeneracy, cultural marxism, great replacement theory, etc). Just this time, LBGT people and hispanic immigrants are the first scapegoats. The current 2nd favored Republican presidential candidate, behind Trump, is most definitely a neo-fascist by just looking at the policies he's been implementing in Florida; not to mention his campaign sharing a video ad featuring DeSantis in the middle of a sonnegrad.
You’re arguing with a sea lioning chud unfortunately my dude
Yes and what about it?
Touch some grass and look at the people around you. Now call half of them fascists
There are lots of dystopian futures where the healthy and technologically advanced separated themselves from the unwashed, uneducated, and violent masses. Elysium is a popular film that uses this trope. We always assumed that the healthy and technologically advanced people created their utopia and pushed out the masses. In these fictional stories, I never considered the possibility that the masses would push out the healthy and technologically advanced people to their utopia and the masses were left to wallow in their own filth by their own choice.
California is definitely not an utopia
It's a closer to one than Louisiana, though.
None of the US can be classified as an utopia
Even so, the comparison is unfavorable to Louisiana, not California.
California looks like a mix of The Walking Dead and a Netflix show tho
Now do Louisiana.
Racist rednecks, gators and new Orleans
Really pulling your punches there.
Some fun facts about Louisiana:
Unemployment is higher than the national average and wages are lower than the national average.
Nineteen percent of the population lives below the poverty level, and that is second only to Mississippi.
Only around 20 percent of students perform at an acceptable level on standardized tests.
Louisiana has the highest murder rate in the nation at 12.4 per 100,000 people, far above No.2 Missouri at 9.8.
Louisiana is ranked 49th out of 50 states as far as job and economic opportunities.
We're not in the dystopian future yet I was describing. We're at possibly the middle point between what was, and what will be. The "what will be" would be when that utopia exists.
Won't be with all the drug problems California has
As someone who has lived all over the country, the drug problem in California is not worse than anywhere else. The worst I have seen was in the south and the Midwest. It's straight meth country all over the US.
That's exactly what they want.
It all boils down to resource management and selectorate theory. They don't care that the overall quality of life will be reduced for most people, because they themselves will personally benefit. They are willing to accept a reduced pie if it means they don't have to share it.
And to the point of the other person responding to you - the constitutional changes they want are real, and that factors in. If they can get even a few light red states more solidly so, they have a stronger position for an eventually constitutional convention, at which point they will rewrite the whole thing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't we be totally freaking the fuck out right now?
I mean, yes, but also the entire regressive ecosystem is gaslighting centrists with "both sides" nonsense, so if you actively freak out it will just alienate the people we need to care.
I think the best course of action is to get as involved locally as you can. Show up to school board and city council meetings. Have and express your opinion on the current business before them. Volunteer, do community outreach, and explore mutual aid.
The right has a well established network for communicating their doctrine and giving people east activities to gradually ramp up their involvement. We need to create similar structures for ourselves even more than we need to scream at elected officials who will ignore us anyway.
Build parallel power, and then use whatever leverage you can to force saner voices to prevail.
I mean, yes, but also the entire regressive ecosystem is gaslighting centrists with “both sides” nonsense, so if you actively freak out it will just alienate the people we need to care.
I just love how responding emotionally (and totally fucking appropriately) to the methodical fascist takeover of our country is alienating to some. I can see why so-called centrists can receive even more ire than the opposition in certain circumstances (MLK, anyone?).
Welp, I'm already an engaged voter. Guess it's really time to start doing more. Really starting to despise these power hungry assholes, you know?
Agreed entirely. Love you, brosis. We've got this, even if it gets worse before it gets better.
It's like the Cultural Revolution or the Khmer Rouge. They'll be rounding up anyone wearing eyeglasses soon enough. Republicans uber alles.
It's that, plus dismantling education so the general populous isn't smart enough to catch onto the conservative grift.
Hey not to worry you'll get a voucher for a private christian school, so they can further force their ideology down your throat all while funneling tax dollars back to the church.
So, anyone else wonder if the plan for Republican controlled states here is to chase all of the left leaning people out, bolstering their majority stranglehold in certain states and sacrificing things like talented doctors/nurses/teachers/etc. for an electoral college advantage? Literal tyranny of the minority? Hmm?
No, you need to think bigger. They want to change the constitution. I'm being completely serious.
https://www.businessinsider.com/constitutional-convention-conservatives-republicans-constitution-supreme-court-2022-7?op=1
I know exactly what you're talking about, and you're right (shit, that article is from a whole year ago?!), I should have thought of that! This is some serious shit, like I was just kind of being "tin-foil-hat-y" with my comment, but they're way ahead of me.
Jesus Herbert Walker CHRIST, this is a huge fucking problem!!
ETA: "The power to call for a convention belongs solely to state legislatures, who would pass and ratify amendments without a governor's signature, Congress' intervention, or any input from the president."
FUUUUUUUCK
It’s not even tin foil hat-y. The Republican Party is a fascist political party that has a desire to overthrow the US government and replace it with a Christian Fascist dictatorship with active plans for genocide. It’s alarmist until it isn’t, they are being completely transparent about their intentions. They know they aren’t the majority, so they want to kill enough people to make sure they never lose and change the government to make their killings legal.
Well damn, I haven't had a pit in my stomach feeling like this since 2016. This is so fucked...
Good thing the only people they killed with their COVID stance was their own.
I mean yeah everyone was hit, but they went out of their way to make sure their own people were hit the hardest.
Did you just call half of your country fascists?
Rep voters =/= Rep politicians. I would say the ~27% of people that identify as Republican support fascist-like policies, even if they don't think of them as fascist. The Rep party itself is definitely neo-fascist. They even use the same rhetoric as the Nazis and white nationalists (focusing on degeneracy, cultural marxism, great replacement theory, etc). Just this time, LBGT people and hispanic immigrants are the first scapegoats. The current 2nd favored Republican presidential candidate, behind Trump, is most definitely a neo-fascist by just looking at the policies he's been implementing in Florida; not to mention his campaign sharing a video ad featuring DeSantis in the middle of a sonnegrad.
You’re arguing with a sea lioning chud unfortunately my dude
Yes and what about it?
Touch some grass and look at the people around you. Now call half of them fascists
I would call them fascists without hesitation.
There are lots of dystopian futures where the healthy and technologically advanced separated themselves from the unwashed, uneducated, and violent masses. Elysium is a popular film that uses this trope. We always assumed that the healthy and technologically advanced people created their utopia and pushed out the masses. In these fictional stories, I never considered the possibility that the masses would push out the healthy and technologically advanced people to their utopia and the masses were left to wallow in their own filth by their own choice.
California is definitely not an utopia
It's a closer to one than Louisiana, though.
None of the US can be classified as an utopia
Even so, the comparison is unfavorable to Louisiana, not California.
California looks like a mix of The Walking Dead and a Netflix show tho
Now do Louisiana.
Racist rednecks, gators and new Orleans
Really pulling your punches there.
Some fun facts about Louisiana:
Unemployment is higher than the national average and wages are lower than the national average.
Nineteen percent of the population lives below the poverty level, and that is second only to Mississippi.
Only around 20 percent of students perform at an acceptable level on standardized tests.
Louisiana has the highest murder rate in the nation at 12.4 per 100,000 people, far above No.2 Missouri at 9.8.
Louisiana is ranked 49th out of 50 states as far as job and economic opportunities.
We're not in the dystopian future yet I was describing. We're at possibly the middle point between what was, and what will be. The "what will be" would be when that utopia exists.
Won't be with all the drug problems California has
As someone who has lived all over the country, the drug problem in California is not worse than anywhere else. The worst I have seen was in the south and the Midwest. It's straight meth country all over the US.
That's exactly what they want.
It all boils down to resource management and selectorate theory. They don't care that the overall quality of life will be reduced for most people, because they themselves will personally benefit. They are willing to accept a reduced pie if it means they don't have to share it.
And to the point of the other person responding to you - the constitutional changes they want are real, and that factors in. If they can get even a few light red states more solidly so, they have a stronger position for an eventually constitutional convention, at which point they will rewrite the whole thing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't we be totally freaking the fuck out right now?
I mean, yes, but also the entire regressive ecosystem is gaslighting centrists with "both sides" nonsense, so if you actively freak out it will just alienate the people we need to care.
I think the best course of action is to get as involved locally as you can. Show up to school board and city council meetings. Have and express your opinion on the current business before them. Volunteer, do community outreach, and explore mutual aid.
The right has a well established network for communicating their doctrine and giving people east activities to gradually ramp up their involvement. We need to create similar structures for ourselves even more than we need to scream at elected officials who will ignore us anyway.
Build parallel power, and then use whatever leverage you can to force saner voices to prevail.
I just love how responding emotionally (and totally fucking appropriately) to the methodical fascist takeover of our country is alienating to some. I can see why so-called centrists can receive even more ire than the opposition in certain circumstances (MLK, anyone?).
Welp, I'm already an engaged voter. Guess it's really time to start doing more. Really starting to despise these power hungry assholes, you know?
Agreed entirely. Love you, brosis. We've got this, even if it gets worse before it gets better.
Thank you. I needed that, legitimately. :)
It's like the Cultural Revolution or the Khmer Rouge. They'll be rounding up anyone wearing eyeglasses soon enough. Republicans uber alles.
It's that, plus dismantling education so the general populous isn't smart enough to catch onto the conservative grift.
Hey not to worry you'll get a voucher for a private christian school, so they can further force their ideology down your throat all while funneling tax dollars back to the church.