Transgender adults in Florida are blindsided that a new law also limits their access to health care

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Transgender adults in Florida are blindsided that a new law also limits their access to health care
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The new law that bans gender-affirming care for minors also mandates that adult patients seeking trans health care sign an informed consent form. It also requires a physician to oversee any health care related to transitioning, and for people to see that doctor in person. Those rules have proven particularly onerous because many people received care from nurse practitioners and used telehealth. The law also made it a crime to violate the new requirements.

Another new law that allows doctors and pharmacists to refuse to treat transgender people further limits their options.

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It's almost as if it was never about children???

Actually fucking painful the amount of people I had this argument with, hate being vindicated in this way. It was never about the children, it's purely about hate.

Funny how the same people supporting this law oppose universal school breakfast/lunches, subsidized neonatal/child healthcare, and funding for extracurricular programs.

only if those programs support minorities. government-funded school breakfasts or lunches, healthcare subsidies, and funding for school extracurricular programs are all A-OK as long as we can make sure it only happens at schools that primarily serve rich white christians.

Pro life...until you're out of the womb... then you're on your own... and get to work!... didn't you hear about the rollback of child labor laws?

Then why is "stop targeting kids" seen as transphobic if it's nothing to do with kids?

Curious

Stop targeting kids with child marriage, beauty parents and abusers in the church. Those are real problems that children face.

You don't give a damn about children. This is entirely about targeting a class of people you hate, with kids as the excuse, and it's fucking vile and evil.

Let me know when actual people support that on the right

Go rewatch cuties

The same reasoning the Nazies called themselves socialist, despite being a fascist dictatorship. Why China says they are communist, while being a dictatorship with limited capitalism. And the US thinking it's a democracy when it's a Oligarchy with limited local democracy.

Dumb people think words mean more than actions/reality.

Socialism and communism always lead to facism. It's inevitable.

As in because the pendulum swings from the far left to the far right? Or were you just mistakenly conflating those two completely opposite political theories?

Calling the Nazis far right is ignoring that their politics were more complicated than a simple 2D spectrum. They adopted ideas from both left and right.

They certainly adopt rhetoric from the left which helps them get elected, then enact exclusively right-wing policies when they actually have power, sure. Fascists usually use populist rhetoric to get into power but then they never do anything to actually reduce inequality (because that would be the opposite of fascism).

those concepts are incredibly easy to take advantage of and you will get someone who will abuse it

Abusing capitalism = someone has more money, more greed but you can still be part of the system and get there if lucky

Abusing communism = fascist dictator and no one can improve their way of living

You need to take several world history courses, political science courses, and maybe see a psychiatrist before I even begin to argue with you. It's obvious you are a troll with no actual understanding. Just go away. I've already blocked you so don't worry about commenting back, but please, do better.

Oh nyo a block from a fascist pls no

For all the incessant whining conservatives do about being called fascists, most of the time I see someone call another person "fascist," it's a conservative shrieking it at someone who doesn't want to use the government to oppress vulnerable minorities.

The fact you want to suppress speech and ban as many people as you can who don't agree is what makes you fascist

The fact you want to suppress speech and ban as many people as you can

And what led you to that idea?

Experience with the rainbow and liberals

You're making baseless accusations like you're doing all over this thread.

Not all authoritarianism is fascism. All fascism is authoritarian, of course, but fascism isn't the only authoritarian system of government.

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Because people like you repeatedly say trans people are grooming kids, just like people like you said gay men were grooming kids, just like people like you said black men were grooming your kids (to do drugs).

Personally, I don't see what is "curious" about responding to wild accusations against an entire minority group with a resounding "that's not happening and you're using a dog whistle to dehumanize trans people."

Things may be less "curious" for you if, instead of starting with a conclusion and working backwards to justify/explain it, you started with a question/hypothesis and worked towards a logical conclusion. Just a suggestion.

So instead of proving that they aren't targeting kids with all the school material and drag shows where they encourage kids to dance you decide yes make that statement transphobic

No don't defend yourself and prove they are wrong. Just call them names for saying it showing them that yes you are that but don't say it

Just call them names

You're calling people pedos (EDIT: and fascists) because they don't hate trans people.

Any proof of that or you projecting?

Here's you calling someone at a fascist:

https://old.lemmy.world/comment/2145458

Here's you calling me a pedo:

https://old.lemmy.world/comment/2145607

Don't whine about being called names you shriek at others.

The proof of "because they don't hate trans people"

Not because they are acting like fascists and you defending pedos over attacking issues in the trans community

Not because they are acting like fascists

Says the guy who wants to oppress vulnerable minorities.

you defending pedos

I am fiercely in opposition to pedos. I've supplied an example of such opposition.

Where did I say that? Once again you're projecting hard just so you can feel morally superior, disgusting.

If you think reading a book to children is predatory grooming then that might be a you problem.

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Then why is “stop targeting kids” seen as transphobic if it’s nothing to do with kids?

Because the bigots who say it aren't saying it about people who are targeting kids. They're falsely accusing trans people of targeting kids.

So you say that sentence is transphobic instead of disowning those who do target kids?

Yeah continue to support them pedo

So you say that sentence is transphobic instead of disowning those who do target kids?

https://old.lemmy.world/comment/1094256

I am critical of those who target kids. And their apologists. This thread is about trans people. Not people who target kids. Your attempts to link the two are pure hate and nothing more.

The fact I am called transphobic for even saying that is enough of a link

You act like you can just label people whatever you want and have zero consequences to it

You act like you can just label people whatever you want and have zero consequences to it

You're literally calling people pedos and fascists.

Indeed so stop acting like good little fascists who are pro censorship and anti democracy

And focusing on "stop targeting kids" instead of the issues by labeling them transphobic is very pedo behavior

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Because nobody in the LGBT community is targeting kids with anything, so when you make that implication, you are perpetuating an offensive and recently extremely dangerous stereotype which has actually gotten people killed already.

Just in case you aren't actually trolling and legitimately don't understand this.

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