Funny, but just as untrue and offensive as OPs meme. I dont understand how people dont see that and keep being offended while offending 10x harder.
Yeah. First clue was that the images were reversed
Good work detective, I know that was a tough case but you really stepped up to uncover the truth
Keto was originally intended for children suffering from epilepsy, and was quite effective for it:
The ketogenic diet is effective in substantially decreasing difficult-to-control seizures and can successfully be administered in a wide variety of settings. source
More recently it has been adopted as a weight loss tool, but it doesn’t seem perfect and especially there seems to be no reason to participate for more than a few months (when a more wholesome diet intended for long term sustenance of fitness might be adopted):
Ketogenic low-carbohydrate diets have increased in popularity over recent years, but the degree of carbohydrate restriction required to achieve ketosis remains unclear. In general, studies have shown greater weight loss at 3–6 months with KLC diets compared with LF diets, however this difference is no longer apparent at 12 months. source
That said, this meme participates in a series of ad hominem attacks about the character of those participating in keto dieting which are broadly inaccurate and clearly intended to effect rage in its audience, which explains the poor reception of the post. I would suggest better rhetorical methods than exhibited here to those interested in furthering the adoption of vegan diets.
You can shitpost about anything, but not their sacred right to eat industrial meat.
Good job op.
What I've been finding so far about lemmy is that if I post something vegan that puts all the blame on corporations, the upvotes come rolling in. But anything else is either closer to a 1:1 ratio, or downvote abyss.
Those upvotes must really put the dopamine in your brain. Considering they're worthless on the fediverse
perhaps it's because you're insulting the very people you're trying to convert to your cause. work on your rhetoric and watch your success rate skyrocket
lol this “us vs them” mentality is what keeps the meat industry strong. If Vegan’s weren’t insufferable the entire meat industry would’ve died in ‘07.
Im sure it would buddy.
Im pretty sure you yourself know how untrue that is. People who eat meat do so mainly out of habit. Habits get engraved in your personality in a way that your ego will defend them to the death. If anyone or anything tries to change or question your habits, your ego interprets that as a personal attack.
Its not really their fault, they have all the necessary information but cant overcome the habit hurdle. It depends strongly on your surroundings and how open you are to new things. It is not in our nature to question things that 'have always worked this way'.
I'm pretty sure you can do vegan keto, it's literally just eating even more beans than normal
There is a vegan keto, and at least one study has found it to not have the same harms that other variants of keto has. The problem there is that it's an extremely restrictive diet, so good luck to anyone trying to stick to that.
Aside from the one legitimate use it has - alleviating seizure symptoms - keto is just plain a diet that makes no sense for humans whatsoever.
I like the phrase “alpha as fuck”
Carbs are good but being vegan makes you brittle and weak
these bean sprouts have like 15lbs of muscle mass between them. first dude is a race car driver? Lmao What a joke some twig on the list for being able to walk a long distance?
Lol, they're so rare you have to make a list of vegan athletes. This is a prime example of the exception proving the rule.
It's a sample size issue. What percentage of people make the effort to get swole? It's maybe (maybe not) a similar figure to how many vegans bother to get strong. Now what percentage of all people are vegan? Estimates range from 1% to 10%, with 3-5% being probably the most reasonable estimate.
But you're the one making the claim without backing it up. Vegans can get all the protein they need, even when strength training. And the best part is we do it without the heart disease, cancer risk, and autoimmune diseases.
Out of curiosity, what autoimmune diseases are prevented by veganism? I've never heard of that before (vegan btw)
the venus williams bit mentions that being vegan helps with the symptoms of some autoimmune disease. it doesn't say it prevents them (at least not from my reading)
Ah yeah I didn't remember that since reading, thanks
one of them is a lifter. one of them plays pro football. everyone else is endurance, speed, or technical athlete. so while being vegan seems like a reasonable option for people who don't need mass and strength, it appears that vegans who have those attributes are outliers.
I'm hearing excuses. I'm not the original commenter, I'm not making the frail and brittle claim.
You said "its the exception proving the rule". So yes, you're absolutely co-signing that claim.
Youre hearing excuses when given a perfectly reasonable explanation? How fucking arrogant can you get?
Very
Umm, yes you are.
Nope. Maybe actually look this time?
So why aren't they brittle and weak?
Misinformation, you are lying.
[A] comprehensive meta-analysis reports a significant protective effect of a vegetarian diet versus the incidence and/or mortality from ischemic heart disease (−25%) and incidence from total cancer (−8%). Vegan diet conferred a significant reduced risk (−15%) of incidence from total cancer. source
[And the results of this study] suggest that a vegan diet does not seem to be detrimental to endurance and muscle strength in healthy young lean women. In fact, our study showed that submaximal endurance might be better in vegans compared with omnivores. Therefore, these findings contradict the popular belief of the general population. source
Found the vegan.
How do you know when someone is a vegan?
Don't worry, they'll tell you.
Funny, but just as untrue and offensive as OPs meme. I dont understand how people dont see that and keep being offended while offending 10x harder.
Yeah. First clue was that the images were reversed
Good work detective, I know that was a tough case but you really stepped up to uncover the truth
Keto was originally intended for children suffering from epilepsy, and was quite effective for it:
More recently it has been adopted as a weight loss tool, but it doesn’t seem perfect and especially there seems to be no reason to participate for more than a few months (when a more wholesome diet intended for long term sustenance of fitness might be adopted):
That said, this meme participates in a series of ad hominem attacks about the character of those participating in keto dieting which are broadly inaccurate and clearly intended to effect rage in its audience, which explains the poor reception of the post. I would suggest better rhetorical methods than exhibited here to those interested in furthering the adoption of vegan diets.
Sounds well reasoned.
Or, more memes. 🙃
when did i say what my diet was lol
What is it?
bofa
Bofa deeze nuts?
This is certainly a hill…
You can shitpost about anything, but not their sacred right to eat industrial meat.
Good job op.
What I've been finding so far about lemmy is that if I post something vegan that puts all the blame on corporations, the upvotes come rolling in. But anything else is either closer to a 1:1 ratio, or downvote abyss.
Those upvotes must really put the dopamine in your brain. Considering they're worthless on the fediverse
perhaps it's because you're insulting the very people you're trying to convert to your cause. work on your rhetoric and watch your success rate skyrocket
lol this “us vs them” mentality is what keeps the meat industry strong. If Vegan’s weren’t insufferable the entire meat industry would’ve died in ‘07.
Im sure it would buddy.
Im pretty sure you yourself know how untrue that is. People who eat meat do so mainly out of habit. Habits get engraved in your personality in a way that your ego will defend them to the death. If anyone or anything tries to change or question your habits, your ego interprets that as a personal attack.
Its not really their fault, they have all the necessary information but cant overcome the habit hurdle. It depends strongly on your surroundings and how open you are to new things. It is not in our nature to question things that 'have always worked this way'.
I'm pretty sure you can do vegan keto, it's literally just eating even more beans than normal
There is a vegan keto, and at least one study has found it to not have the same harms that other variants of keto has. The problem there is that it's an extremely restrictive diet, so good luck to anyone trying to stick to that.
Aside from the one legitimate use it has - alleviating seizure symptoms - keto is just plain a diet that makes no sense for humans whatsoever.
I like the phrase “alpha as fuck”
Carbs are good but being vegan makes you brittle and weak
You mean like these weaklings?
these bean sprouts have like 15lbs of muscle mass between them. first dude is a race car driver? Lmao What a joke some twig on the list for being able to walk a long distance?
Lol, they're so rare you have to make a list of vegan athletes. This is a prime example of the exception proving the rule.
It's a sample size issue. What percentage of people make the effort to get swole? It's maybe (maybe not) a similar figure to how many vegans bother to get strong. Now what percentage of all people are vegan? Estimates range from 1% to 10%, with 3-5% being probably the most reasonable estimate.
But you're the one making the claim without backing it up. Vegans can get all the protein they need, even when strength training. And the best part is we do it without the heart disease, cancer risk, and autoimmune diseases.
Out of curiosity, what autoimmune diseases are prevented by veganism? I've never heard of that before (vegan btw)
the venus williams bit mentions that being vegan helps with the symptoms of some autoimmune disease. it doesn't say it prevents them (at least not from my reading)
Ah yeah I didn't remember that since reading, thanks
one of them is a lifter. one of them plays pro football. everyone else is endurance, speed, or technical athlete. so while being vegan seems like a reasonable option for people who don't need mass and strength, it appears that vegans who have those attributes are outliers.
I'm hearing excuses. I'm not the original commenter, I'm not making the frail and brittle claim.
You said "its the exception proving the rule". So yes, you're absolutely co-signing that claim.
Youre hearing excuses when given a perfectly reasonable explanation? How fucking arrogant can you get?
Very
Umm, yes you are.
Nope. Maybe actually look this time?
So why aren't they brittle and weak?
Misinformation, you are lying.
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