China’s military shows off rifle-toting robot dogs

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And naturally it's a reverse-engineered BD Spot, likely even down to the software. Why put money into R&D when your adversaries do it for you?

I don’t think Bungie was making an assessment of the Chinese or anyone else with this detail, but in the Halo series the leader race of the alien religious collective called The Covenant initially achieved their power by reverse engineering and then utilizing the technology of an ancient galaxy conquering civilization. The human species, which based on the time period likely is very analogous to the US military, found that to be a big weakness because once they acquired some of the tech they were able to use it to improve on their own tools and weapons, but the Covenant never did because the ancient aliens were viewed as gods by them.

Not sure if i had a point but I thought it was a fun connection

Yeah, except in this situation the covenant send their member species to school on Earth to learn how to adapt the technology too.

It's the Chinese way.

And TBF it does just make sense when you're a nation with huge manufacturing capabilities up against someone with far stronger research capabilities.

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I'm no battle expert, but this seems entirely impractical in cost, ability, readiness, and effectiveness.

"Send out the gun dog!"

immediately incapacitated

"Fuck it, duct tape this grenade to the Wish drone..."

I know someone will say it's for standardization and/or cost savings, but I love how it's always the jankiest setup.

Go drill a hole for a camera mount to it's head and glue a PTZ setup to it's back for the gun. It's like they just asked the security camera guy if he had any extra parts in their equipment closet and just ran with it.

I don't find that scarier than the cheap suicide quad copters we've seen in Ukraine.

You probably should. Cheap suicide quad copters have a much more difficult time getting into things like basements.

Okay, but this can't go through doors on its own either unless it brings an arm buddy.

Or, you know, has a big gun on its back.

You can shoot through a door.

Sure, but you don't just do one or the other. You diversify. If you had all of these coming after you, which would you find more deadly, the dog or the drone? For me, I'd say the grenade drone. You can manufacture a lot of grenade drones for the cost of one gun dog.

I understand that, but my point was you should find it scarier because it is another tool that can be used, except this one has an even greater ability to get people when they are in hiding. The Chinese aren't going to give up on cheap drones just because of this, but this is a "there is nowhere you can hide" weapon. That's really the point of it.

Sure, and I agree it's scary. I just find the drone scarier.

Just fly it through the window. The concussion alone kills and has the added bonus of dropping the ceiling down and possibly the house if it's a big enough explosion

Not all basements have windows. Basement bunkers tend not to.

Time for an anti-dog moat, I'd say. Full of robot sharks.

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China is playing catch up here

Innovate to stay ahead, or steal tech and be slightly behind but never need to innovate

If you're going to operate with a tightly controlled information space for security reasons, it's going to naturally stifle innovation. It comes down to prevailing attitudes, where a pattern of generally challenging old assumptions and ideas is either encouraged or discouraged. You can either be loyal to entrenched ideas, which slows progress but encourages stability and predictability, or you can not give a fuck about them, which speeds innovation at the cost of more instability and unpredictability.

You can't really do both at the same time though, since it all traces back to the core attitudes of an individual person and how they operate within some sort of organizational structure, where they have superiors. You can either challenge the superiors or bow, but not both.

Check out what Onyx Industries is doing with MARSOC if you want to get a glimpse of something much more advanced than this. Threat detection, tracking and characterization, along with precision shots, autonomous operation, and capable of working in gps denied environments. Vs the spot knockoff with a go pro. I know who I'm betting on.

https://www.techtimes.com/articles/304458/20240508/robot-dogs-ai-targeting-rifles-ghost-robotics-onyx-now-under.htm

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/05/robot-dogs-armed-with-ai-targeting-rifles-undergo-us-marines-special-ops-evaluation/

The gun is basically duck taped to clone robot dog. Reloading mechanism is just human. Lousy propaganda.

From the country that houses DJI drones I expected something a lot scarier and more sophisticated.

This looks like a fraud to hide their real arsenal.

it's a Boston Dynamics robot dog with a Type-95 Chinese Rifle on it.

I wouldn't count on a hidden arsenal imho after staying more than a year in Mainland China they have certain things that are quite impressive but a lot of it is built quickly En Masse. They struggle terribly with innovation but honestly that's just down to their education. However they are quite capable at copying a certain design and improving on it quickly that's basically the greatest Mainlander strength at this point.

This looks awful. The rifle keeps going up and down while it is walking, no stabilization and they didnt show any accuracy data. You might as well ducktape a rifle to a roomba.

Aiming at targets far away is very hard. Even if it has to stop to shoot, how does it aim? By moving the body of a giant robot dog? That doesnt seem it has the sensitivity it needs. If the rifle is moving that much during walking, how can you accurately aim at anything, since you dont know where the rifle will be aiming when you stop? The camera seems to be on the robot and not on the rifle and everything is jiggling.

Also why even use a full goddamn rifle? You wont have a human holding it, you can just use a modified barrel basically. Are they not embarrassed by how bad this looks? Are they so clueless?

Y'all need to watch laowhy86 and serpentza on YT as well as their OG "The China Show" ( and not the Bloomberg copy-crap CCPPCC kowtowing ). China Fact Chasers on YT has clips if you dont have time for long form content.

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