Not interested at all. Steam os has spoiled gamers with the quick booting, flexibility, and pause / resume. It's over for windows.
MS has a handheld gaming OS in the works.
They don't; there was an internal tech demo that never went anywhere but was spread around online a few months ago with a bunch of misinformation that Microsoft was preparing to fight the Steam Deck head on.
the developer also noted that the project itself "didn't go much of anywhere."
Well that's a shame but thanks for the update on that.
Hardware makers making the same mistakes over and over again...
I'll say it louder for the kids in the back, "DON'T BOTHER MAKING CUSTOM GAMING HARDWARE WITHOUT A CUSTOM GAMING OS".
Regardless of how you feel about Windows, it is not fit for purpose. It's the wrong tool for the job.
Well, you know what they say:
When all you have is a hammer everything looks...like....a....uhhhhhh....Window?
When all you have is a Window everything looks like a huge friggin pane
Eh, this and the Ally are cash grabs, I doubt they intend to spend the money needed to support custom software long-term. They'll just hope that Windows updates don't mess it up and if they do, they'll blame Microsoft.
If this form factor is here to stay, and hopefully it is, Microsoft will probably adapt Windows to it (also hopefully). SteamOS is very good though, can manufacturers not just use that?
Microsoft will likely do fuck all and have us all rely on third-party solutions.
I think other manufacturers aren't using SteamOS for 2 main reasons:
1: They get to brag about universal compatibility, even if that's not a huge gap anymore
2: They aren't dependent on a direct competitor for their software
Except Valve isn't a competitor to any of these hardware manufacturers if they also have SteamOS.
That's cool and all but I got my hopes on the Steam Deck still, simply because Valve cracked the "who needs Windows" nut
I second this. I'm planning to start switching my devices from Windows to Linux in a couple of weeks due to good experience I've had with the Steam Deck
Is running windows os on these devices is a lot of resource overhead?
windows can be tuned to run fairly well, but we're talking lenovo here, and they do love their preinstalled crapware.
The bigger problem with Windows is that the Steamdeck has some great battery optimization settings that seem like they'd be a pain to implement.
Plus windows just kinda sucks to use with these sorts of devices
Plus windows just kinda sucks to use with these sorts of devices
These devices are honestly quite fast, the overhead is similar to the overhead on an entry level gaming PC (to be fair, that is still a substantial overhead, but people accept it)
Those ChimeraOS folks are gonna have their hands full...
All these new handhelds with windows seem to have completely forgot how much of a failure windows has been on mobiles in the past (other than laptops and such). I know windows mobile was a whole different ui but isn't windows 10/11 even worse to use on small screens like this?
I really hope valve starts supporting steamOS for devices other than the deck soon so we can have the full deck experience including all the tweakable settings.
It's got some ground to make up if it's going to try to take on the ROG Ally. Still, competition is exactly what this space needs ATM - can't wait to see where the market is in a few years!
Asus and Lenovo clearly put no thought into how controlling windows desktop with a controller feels worse than pancaking your own testicles. The steam deck trackpads are far from an amazing experience for desktop input but it is at least usable and not the worst thing ever.
At least this means that the PC handhelds seem to be lucrative and we can definitely expect a steam deck 2 or better competition.
I'd be glad to see better competition to the Steam Deck but currently they're all very far.
They all run Windows and lack touchpads.
No thanks. We don't need more closed and bloated spyware, what we need is more open and privacy respecing OSes like GNU/Linux and devices using it like Steam Deck.
Not interested at all. Steam os has spoiled gamers with the quick booting, flexibility, and pause / resume. It's over for windows.
MS has a handheld gaming OS in the works.
They don't; there was an internal tech demo that never went anywhere but was spread around online a few months ago with a bunch of misinformation that Microsoft was preparing to fight the Steam Deck head on.
https://gamerant.com/microsoft-windows-handheld-mode-leak-dev-details/
Well that's a shame but thanks for the update on that.
Hardware makers making the same mistakes over and over again...
I'll say it louder for the kids in the back, "DON'T BOTHER MAKING CUSTOM GAMING HARDWARE WITHOUT A CUSTOM GAMING OS".
Regardless of how you feel about Windows, it is not fit for purpose. It's the wrong tool for the job.
Well, you know what they say:
When all you have is a Window everything looks like a huge friggin pane
Eh, this and the Ally are cash grabs, I doubt they intend to spend the money needed to support custom software long-term. They'll just hope that Windows updates don't mess it up and if they do, they'll blame Microsoft.
If this form factor is here to stay, and hopefully it is, Microsoft will probably adapt Windows to it (also hopefully). SteamOS is very good though, can manufacturers not just use that?
Microsoft will likely do fuck all and have us all rely on third-party solutions.
I think other manufacturers aren't using SteamOS for 2 main reasons:
1: They get to brag about universal compatibility, even if that's not a huge gap anymore
2: They aren't dependent on a direct competitor for their software
Except Valve isn't a competitor to any of these hardware manufacturers if they also have SteamOS.
That's cool and all but I got my hopes on the Steam Deck still, simply because Valve cracked the "who needs Windows" nut
I second this. I'm planning to start switching my devices from Windows to Linux in a couple of weeks due to good experience I've had with the Steam Deck
Is running windows os on these devices is a lot of resource overhead?
windows can be tuned to run fairly well, but we're talking lenovo here, and they do love their preinstalled crapware.
The bigger problem with Windows is that the Steamdeck has some great battery optimization settings that seem like they'd be a pain to implement.
Plus windows just kinda sucks to use with these sorts of devices
FTFY
These devices are honestly quite fast, the overhead is similar to the overhead on an entry level gaming PC (to be fair, that is still a substantial overhead, but people accept it)
Cool. Now it just needs steam os on it
Those ChimeraOS folks are gonna have their hands full...
All these new handhelds with windows seem to have completely forgot how much of a failure windows has been on mobiles in the past (other than laptops and such). I know windows mobile was a whole different ui but isn't windows 10/11 even worse to use on small screens like this?
I really hope valve starts supporting steamOS for devices other than the deck soon so we can have the full deck experience including all the tweakable settings.
It's got some ground to make up if it's going to try to take on the ROG Ally. Still, competition is exactly what this space needs ATM - can't wait to see where the market is in a few years!
Asus and Lenovo clearly put no thought into how controlling windows desktop with a controller feels worse than pancaking your own testicles. The steam deck trackpads are far from an amazing experience for desktop input but it is at least usable and not the worst thing ever.
At least this means that the PC handhelds seem to be lucrative and we can definitely expect a steam deck 2 or better competition.
I'd be glad to see better competition to the Steam Deck but currently they're all very far.
They all run Windows and lack touchpads.
No thanks. We don't need more closed and bloated spyware, what we need is more open and privacy respecing OSes like GNU/Linux and devices using it like Steam Deck.