lemmy.ml is getting nothing new from lemmy.world, seem cut off since Saturday EDIT: fixed on Wednesday

BitOneZero @ .world@lemmy.world to Fediverse@lemmy.world – 174 points –

I found one post from 12 hours ago that describes the problem: https://lemmy.ml/post/2650814 - but that's all I've seen. Content is way down on lemmy.ml with nothing coming in from .world

EDIT: seems that lemmy.ml is getting some content delivered to .world, but .world communities seem islands on .ml that only have local new posts/comments.

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I'll check the new way Lemmy detects dead servers, it's possible an outage caused lemmy.ml to think we're dead (we're not!) :-)

Is there anyway you could also check fanaticus.social I am a mod on the Braves community there but I havent seen any new posts in days. If I go to the community via their instance, I show new posts.
Example: Via Lemmy.World the newest post is 4 days old: https://lemmy.world/c/braves@fanaticus.social?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New Via Fanaticus.Social the newest post is 17 hours old: https://fanaticus.social/c/braves?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New

I did notice they are on 0.18.2 where we are on 0.18.3. Is it as simple as that server needing to update?

I wanted to piggy back off of your comment. Have you learned anything about what’s going on? I’m a mod over at https://lemmy.world/c/miamihurricanes@fanaticus.social and it seems posts haven’t federated for the better part of 2 weeks now.

I've had no luck yet. My hope was it would be fixed in the next version of lemmy that was created a day or two ago. But that doesn't seem to have fixed things.
I'm considering just creating a 2nd account there until the issue is fixed.

I wonder if it is because of the various outages on both instance and the new "dead instance" detection, lemmy.ml has temporarily stopped receiving updates?

The federation code now includes a check for dead instances which is used when sending activities. This helps to reduce the amount of outgoing POST requests, and also reduce server load.

Slightly tangential, but why is "one of the two major Lemmy instances" using a TLD under the authority of the government of frigging MALI, a semi-failed state that has nothing whatsoever to do with Lemmy or its mission?!

Come on internet, grow up and show some respect for internet architecture. TLDs are not just for jokes or decoration, they actually mean something.

It's because they were giving free domains for a long time. Then when they were recently being revoked, Dessalines paid for the domain to keep it (I'm guessing to avoid losing the current community+their m+l origins?)

It's a Marxist lenninist server, hence the ML. The developers of lemmy are m-ls.

They stopped sending my instance (kbin) anything from 20:00 (utc) on the day they upgraded until around midnight the next morning (4 hours or so). Just stopped dead then resumed as if nothing happened.

I assumed they were slowly bringing federation back up and adding instances in batches. Maybe a related thing?

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On my lemmy.world account I see no content from lemmy.ml

Not good. Hopefully they can get things figured out quickly.

I can see content from lemmy.one and lemmy.ml from communities I'm subscribed to.

Why would be 2 biggest instances be defedarating from each other?

This would be a terrible choice. For me it’s enough that some instances are down from time to time.

Where does it say they’ve defedarated?

Seems like the federation is just broken for some reason, maybe load issues on Lemmy.world

The title says that.

Title says content isn’t loading through and is effectively defedarated, not actually defedarated like the admins have made a specific decision to do that.

It’s the Wild West out here. Different admins who have never worked together on this scale have to figure out how to work in digital society. It’s kind of like handing a libertarian the reins to government and watching how they slowly realize they have to govern instead of just complaining about those in power. It’s going to be messy, there are going to be blackouts, and at some point they’ll realize they can’t do everything they want and some users will complain that they sold out by blocking this or that.

Just hang on for the ride.