PSA: Sort by New in smaller communities to avoid only seeing the same old posts.

apfel@lemmy.world to Lemmy.World Announcements@lemmy.world – 503 points –

I've noticed that most communities mainly show day-old posts with default sorting. Sorting by New or Hot helps with seeing newer posts. Kinda obvious, but I sure didn't realize until trying it out 😅

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Hot is broken atm. There's an edge case that can happen that stops the hot_rank value decreasing, meaning it never leaves the first page.

Gonna be fixed in 0.18, but yeah, use New until then.

They should tighten the time bounds or make it customisable or dynamic based on the community activity too.

48 hours worked when Lemmy was small, but now there are a lot more posts.

I can't wait to see all the fixes in 0.18 implemented, it's going to be huge. 1.0, here we come!

Aha. I was wondering why my All/Hot front page today is still the exact same as yesterday.

I've been doing All/Hot as my default view and it seems to refresh often enough, not sure why I'm not having the same problem as others

Could be that with less users on lemmy.one, there's less people using the search for specific posts. The edge case triggers when a user does that. The hot_rank column functions normally if nobody searches for posts.

Yeah honestly I picked it randomly and had been regretting not going with a bigger instance, but now I'm glad I went with it because I can still read both Beehaw and Lemmy.world so I'm not really caught up in that whole drama. Seems that there are some advantages to being on a smaller instance

I have been sorting by top day and I like it.

Top Day is probably the best sort option so far, but I wouldn't mind something that updates a little more frequently (e.g., Top for the past 4 hours). Additionally, I wouldn't mind adding a decay mechanism that gradually pulls posts lower as time passes. As things stand now, if a post is immediately popular within the same hour it gets posted, it'll remain as the #1 post on Top Day for the next 23 hours before immediately falling off the page altogether the second the post becomes 24 hours old. That leads to stale pages, and if people see the same posts every time they check this place, they'll assume it's a dead community and never come back. By implementing something that more gradually cycles content, if I check the site once at lunch and again a few hours later on my train ride home, I should get different content.

i've been trying to use top day as that's typically my favorite filter. however there seems to be some kind of bug where all the newest posts keep jumping into my top-day list at the top. is it just me? not sure where to reach out about this... the posts are spammy porn ones too so it seems like someone else is aware and exploiting this...

i’ve been trying to use top day as that’s typically my favorite filter. however there seems to be some kind of bug where all the newest posts keep jumping into my top-day list at the top. is it just me? not sure where to reach out about this… the posts are spammy porn ones too so it seems like someone else is aware and exploiting this…

That is a bug, there is something about it on github.

i'm having a very hard time using lemmy with this show-stopping bug and can't figure out how everyone else isn't just as frustrated as me or why no one seems to be doing anything about it. none of the filter options actually work with ALL and that's all i really use. i just want to ditch reddit ffs.

I've been using top:day and hot for /all

I discovered top and think top/day is good for any of the subscriptions, local or all. At least compared to active/hot

I sort by most popular for the last day. Lets me browse what’s popular while keeping my feed fresh.

My problem is not with smaller communities, but the frontpage sucks in active, hot, or new sort. I've found New Comments to be a better sort, but I would much rather have the active and hot sorts to be fixed/tweaked to populate fresh posts on the front page. Do we have any ETA on any changes to those sorts?

sort frontpage by top of the day

May be if we had a Top Hour, or Top 4 Hours or something like that.

That gets stale after a while because more people see the top posts, and the get voted even more and stay on the top.

Uncheck "Show read posts" in your settings, then once you up/downvote or actually go into a post, it will disappear for you.

I tried that, but that ended up hiding everything in my profile too. I was trying to find a post that I wanted to get back to, and had to disable that setting to see it.

I think they're basically broken at the current server load levels. Pretty sure there's a fix in the next update though.

It will take some time before I stop trying to refresh the front page habitually, but I like the variety of posts I've seen fly by on KBIN the past days. Had to filter out some german pages though.

Yeah, what was with that? No other communities in different languages sneaking through, but I've blocked several German ones now.

I've been doing this, and have been finding it to be a much more enjoyable experience.

Reddit was 1000s of posts a minute, while Lemmy is more like 5 posts a minute if that.

In a way I like it more, feels much more engaging.

Also seems better for seeing posts from smaller communities I'm subscribed to. Other settings, the big communities always end up at the top and I miss threads I'm otherwise interested in.

I have set my defaults to Subscribed & NewComments in my account settings, it defaults to that now I'm both the desktop and Jerboa app.

I sort by most popular for the last day. Lets me browse what’s popular while keeping my feed fresh.