How did you get pics from inside Mozilla HQ?
What a shitshow of a company at this point.
Im grateful to the people there keeping Firefox alive, but at this point they should consider splitting off from Mozilla and maintaining a fork or just joining the librewolf team.
It would be nice, but they gotta eat.
The one Mozilla executive who agrees with you (that employees should be put ahead of profit) is currently embroiled in a lawsuit with Mozilla over that.
Im 100% certain there is enough funding going to mozilla that is specifically intended to help firefox. All those donors, private and commercial, could/would switch if the public stunt of declaring mozilla a sinking ship is aggressive enough. I dont believe for even a second that more than 5-10% of mozillas money is going towards actual core firefox/thunderbird dev work. Its not cheap to develop im sure, but nowhere near the amount of money that mozilla sucks up every year.
Their finance reports are public. You should look at those, if that's what you believe.
I installed Palemoon because it's more independent from Firefox, having forked longer ago, but what I'm really looking forward to is for a usable browser to come from the Servo project.
@loaExMachina@unexposedhazard I have Pale Moon installed for testing purposes but as a general use browser it's pretty useless on the modern web since the developer REFUSES to allow it to support the Widevine plug-in making it useless for watching streaming video. It won't even load YouTube videos properly.
Not supporting DRM on the web is a concious choice I support, you should have base Firefox for your proprietary tech consumptions
The lack of sandboxing is concerning though. Regardless of DRM needs. After all a web browser is basically a JavaScript runtime environment that runs code from all over the web. Having that not be sandboxed is a serious risk, even on operating systems like Linux where applications generally run with restricted privileges.
Still we need an alternative to the Chromium/Chrome monopoly. I can't imagine living in a world without uBlockOrigin/ good adblockers.
They seriously think I would want to donate my money when their useless leadership is getting paid millions. Out of their fucking tree is what they are. 😆
Even on thunderbird they like to ask for donations
thunderbird is actually a different subdivision and most of their donations go towards developing thunderbird and k-9mail, you should support them if you can
Ohhh that makes more sense
Does Thunderbird still belong to Mozilla? I thought they'd dumped it.
pretty sure yeah but i can be wrong i aint sure
What did they do?
To summarize:
FF has been losing market share while hiking chairman salary.
Fediverse support and Mastodon are being discontinued in December.
Mozilla is hiring positions for ads and for AI (Which faces backlash for profiting off FOSS development).
Not so long ago users were also upset with the quiet addition of 'Website Advertising Preferences.'
Technically the graph endedon 2019, but it was a major loss until theb
They also recently added built-in AI chat support, which just gives you contextual “summarize this text” type of stuff on your right click menu. But still, it just goes to show that Mozilla is really leaning into AI.
OP posted this toot with this image revently in a different comunity:
How did you get pics from inside Mozilla HQ? What a shitshow of a company at this point.
Im grateful to the people there keeping Firefox alive, but at this point they should consider splitting off from Mozilla and maintaining a fork or just joining the librewolf team.
It would be nice, but they gotta eat.
The one Mozilla executive who agrees with you (that employees should be put ahead of profit) is currently embroiled in a lawsuit with Mozilla over that.
Im 100% certain there is enough funding going to mozilla that is specifically intended to help firefox. All those donors, private and commercial, could/would switch if the public stunt of declaring mozilla a sinking ship is aggressive enough. I dont believe for even a second that more than 5-10% of mozillas money is going towards actual core firefox/thunderbird dev work. Its not cheap to develop im sure, but nowhere near the amount of money that mozilla sucks up every year.
Their finance reports are public. You should look at those, if that's what you believe.
I installed Palemoon because it's more independent from Firefox, having forked longer ago, but what I'm really looking forward to is for a usable browser to come from the Servo project.
@loaExMachina @unexposedhazard I have Pale Moon installed for testing purposes but as a general use browser it's pretty useless on the modern web since the developer REFUSES to allow it to support the Widevine plug-in making it useless for watching streaming video. It won't even load YouTube videos properly.
Not supporting DRM on the web is a concious choice I support, you should have base Firefox for your proprietary tech consumptions
The lack of sandboxing is concerning though. Regardless of DRM needs. After all a web browser is basically a JavaScript runtime environment that runs code from all over the web. Having that not be sandboxed is a serious risk, even on operating systems like Linux where applications generally run with restricted privileges.
Still we need an alternative to the Chromium/Chrome monopoly. I can't imagine living in a world without uBlockOrigin/ good adblockers.
They seriously think I would want to donate my money when their useless leadership is getting paid millions. Out of their fucking tree is what they are. 😆
Even on thunderbird they like to ask for donations
thunderbird is actually a different subdivision and most of their donations go towards developing thunderbird and k-9mail, you should support them if you can
Ohhh that makes more sense
Does Thunderbird still belong to Mozilla? I thought they'd dumped it.
pretty sure yeah but i can be wrong i aint sure
What did they do?
To summarize:
FF has been losing market share while hiking chairman salary.
Fediverse support and Mastodon are being discontinued in December.
Mozilla is hiring positions for ads and for AI (Which faces backlash for profiting off FOSS development).
Not so long ago users were also upset with the quiet addition of 'Website Advertising Preferences.'
Technically the graph endedon 2019, but it was a major loss until theb
They also recently added built-in AI chat support, which just gives you contextual “summarize this text” type of stuff on your right click menu. But still, it just goes to show that Mozilla is really leaning into AI.
OP posted this toot with this image revently in a different comunity:
https://feddit.org/post/2953102
Choose any combo
https://www.reddit.com/user/lo________________ol/comments/1f16i41/mozilla_freefall/
Another thread on this recommended waterfox. Based on Firefox. Might be worth checking out. I'm using it for now.
I’ve been using LibreWolf for a while now. Seems to receive updates from upstream faster than any other fork. Working quite well for me.
Also Zen browser
Ill be the chair for half a million a year!
Firefox would not exist by then.
and so the reposters begin