Iran's Trump hack and assassination plot "act of war," Lindsey Graham says
newsweek.com
Iran's alleged plot to assassinate former President Donald Trump and hack the Trump campaign amount to "an act of war," according to Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.
Just days after a would-be assassin's bullet grazed Trump's ear in July, the FBI announced that Iran had allegedly been separately plotting to kill the former president. Federal officials later revealed that Iran had hacked and stolen confidential information from the Trump campaign.
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But when russia does it...
Of course Lindsey Graham can only think about buttery males
It's less "Russia hacked Trump's campaign" and more like "Russia is conspiring with Trump's campaign."
Russia hacked the democrats campaign in 2015 and 2016 and for instance they released Hillary Clintons emails.
But MAGA idiots think that's stellar, and Russia is now an ally to MAGA. Showing clearly the entire MAGA movement are traitors.
He should go over and fight em then
Grease 'im up and throw him in the ring, it'll be hilarious.
Nope. Even though the Senator can't admit it, Trump is a citizen, nothing more.
Exactly. It’s Mr. Trump. Mr. Obama. Mr. Bush. Etc.
We have stop normalizing reverence for former statesmen. Respect—where it’s deserved—sure but titles belong to the office not the person.
When they call Trump president, it's because they want to make the impression the election was stolen, and Trump is the real elected president.
They don't say former, they say it as if he is the de facto president. And it needs to be called out every time we can.
It's treasonous against the American democracy and the current administration.
That's why he's got that copyright infringing logo.
L'etat n'est pas leur
So Lindsey, what was it when we assassinated an Iranian general?
Its hilarious to me that Iran handled the assassination of their top general more gracefully than the Republicans handled losing an election.
Yeah, not like last time when they shot down their own passenger airliner.
Ridiculous. Dude was a uniformed soldier.
Where is the assassination attempt coming from?
Article says Trump's campaign claims the FBI said it. Which doesn't mean shit, Trump's campaign (and especially the piece of shit quoted) lie about damn near everything.
The DOJ announced the arrest of a man working on behalf of Iran attempting to recruit assassins a couple of weeks ago:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/pakistani-national-ties-iran-charged-connection-foiled-plot-assassinate-politician-or-us-0
No. That says a man who had recently visited the Middle East, and make no mention of a specified target...
That is in no way the same as "Iran tried to assassinate trump".
https://apnews.com/article/iran-pakistan-murderforhire-trump-justice-department-5a3abe0895ae7c2be14f89fc4e49bc53
This is a story that has been building for a few months. While I'm not particularly convinced that this specific threat was particularly credible, there's been plenty of reporting that the Biden DOJ is taking this seriously.
It's not really surprising to me that Iran would want Trump dead. I don't think they were anywhere close to actually accomplishing that, but I can certainly believe they'd try.
Yes, Trump and the rest of the rightwing are going to blow it up into something bigger than what actually happened, but it's important to understand the truth in the lie because the story is potentially consequential in the wider relationship between the US and Iran.
That's still not showing any connection to the Iranian government...
Just that this guy has a wife and children that live in Iran...
Which is a pretty good reason why he spends time in Iran btw.
In your quote the "from Iran" just doesn't mean what you think it means
I understand this might seem a little pedantic, but the difference is fucking huge and trump's campaign is exploiting the same misunderstanding that you're having right now
My "misunderstanding" is having followed this story for more than a single headline.
Marcy Wheeler has written extensively about it for months now. She's been at the center of the story to the extent that she was one of the journalists that (presumably Iran) attempted to leak hacked Trump campaign documents through. She's very adamantly of the stance that there is a real threat because it's been corroborated by multiple sources who don't have any interest in propping up Trump.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/09/25/dont-make-the-same-mistake-with-iran-that-denialists-made-with-russia/
Trump's a blowhard. He's absolutely going to use the story as a wedge. Don't do his work for him by dismissing the possibility of what appear to be real threats out of hand.
I'm not saying we know the exact nature of what's going on or that any threat is particularly immediate; what I am saying is that there's enough information available from sources that aren't affiliated with Trump that the possibility should be taken seriously.
Yet she offers absolutely zero evidence it is connected to Iran's government...
You're conflating evidence of them hacking, and saying that proves there was a state sponsored effort to recruit an assain to kill trump.
We do t even know if he's the target...
What is so hard to understand about literally any of this?
I've honestly ran out of ways to keep saying the two very basic points here
Repeating yourself does seem to be your priority here.
If you had actually read through the piece I linked instead of looking for something to immediately disagree with in the snippet I quoted, you'd see she linked to this story. The entire reason we're hearing about this now is because Trump was briefed on the threat by US intelligence and Trump is literally incapable of not immediately repeating what he's been told.
And if you took 20 seconds to Google after that, you'd find that the DNI has publicly confirmed that the briefing with Trump happened. Additionally, the same story has Anthony Blinken confirming that the US has been tracking Iranian threats against Trump as well as other past and current officials. It even links to multiple previous reports discussing an increased threat profile dating back months just like I said was the case.
My point is that Trump is not the only source and that there's been corroboration from parties who really don't care about making Trump look good. I'm not inclined to believe the story because Trump said it and, yes, Trump is absolutely a liar; I'm inclined to believe it because it's been fairly widely reported well before Trump said anything at all.
They're setting up to back Israel in yet another 20 years of war
No setup needed. Israel is an ally and a democracy, and the West isn't going to let Iran gobble it up for any reason, let alone to be part of some delusional far-right pan-Islamist caliphate with ambitions of an actual genocide.
This position has nearly unanimous support in the annals of government throughout the western world, and nearly unanimous, bipartisan support in DC. Many of the foreign-made bombs Israel is dropping right now were made in the 80's and 90's. They don't drop the new shit. They drop the old shit. We've already armed them for the next twenty years. Again: ally, young democracy, surrounded by total nutters: no setup needed.
Lindsey Graham (Wormtail) is completely irrelevant. All he ever wants to do is to go to war and get fucked by young male prostitutes.
Perhaps he should step down in the interest of national security and his own safety.
Oh fuck off, Graham.
Shut the fuck up, Lindsey. Point to Iran on a map.
Killing cheeto Mussolini would be an act of war, and an act of peace - but most of all, Graham can fuck right off.
I feel like under different less orange circumstances I may agree.
But I have a deeply flawed personality and don't agree.
I'm sure any politician will understand.
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