Japan reports wave of Chinese phone harassment after Fukushima discharge
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Tokyo has urged Beijing to "ensure the safety of Japanese residents in China" after a wave of telephone harassment targeting businesses in Japan sparked by the controversial discharge of Fukushima wastewater.
While Japan insists the release of the treated water is safe - a view backed by the UN's nuclear watchdog - China has staunchly opposed it and banned all Japanese seafood imports, saying it contaminates the ocean.
The Japanese government on Sunday (Aug 27) published new data showing waters off Fukushima continued to post radioactivity levels well within safe limits.
The Japanese eat a huge amount of seafood. They aren't dumb enough to pollute their main source of protein more than what's deemed scientifically safe, and I trust them to do that.
This is just age old Chinese racism shrouded in greenwashing. I'd like to see the stats on the pollution flowing into the ocean from China. I guarantee it's 10x worse than anything Japan is doing.
Based on my experience living in China, even if the government or local industries did release stats of this nature, take it with a mountain of salt.
It took far too long for the government to even acknowledge that there were problems with air quality in urban centers, and that was plain as day (or...lack thereof) for all to see. And even still there are instances of poor air quality being misreported.
For something like ocean pollution, which the average person has almost no personal exposure to, a problem may as well not exist if no one notices. And now if someone does notice, well, China now has a convenient scapegoat in Japan.
Yeah because it's not as if TEPCO would lie to the public about danger they were in. or try to release water that wasn't safe by not planning to have anywhere to store it or fail to filter the way they claimed
They're definitely trustworthy this time. Anyone who doesn't believe everything they say is just crazy, there is absolutely no reason to not take everything they say at face value. Why are you even checking?
Realistically this is China playing political games, but it is also Japan playing political games to try and paint all the times they were lying and there was danger (andnall the times they intend to lie) as innocuous.
If they care, why do they dump so much plastic in the sea? That is way, way worse than then minute amounts Tritium dumped into the ocean on the other side of Japan.
The Japanese eat a huge amount of seafood. They aren't dumb enough to pollute their main source of protein more than what's deemed scientifically safe, and I trust them to do that.
This is just age old Chinese racism shrouded in greenwashing. I'd like to see the stats on the pollution flowing into the ocean from China. I guarantee it's 10x worse than anything Japan is doing.
Tepco is a private enterprise, isn't it?
Wouldn't be the first time a private company fucked people over for profit.
I seem to remember tepco doing something where they cut corners and lied and put the japanese people in danger and cost them $400 billion and then lied about the cleanup and cut corners further contaminating fisheries for 9 years.
I can't quite remember what that was. Must have been chinese propaganda.
Must have been.
Japan is releasing nuclear waste from a reactor they failed to design with sufficient safety protections given its location.
China pollutes like crazy, but your whataboutism argument doesn't matter.
Japan is releasing nuclear waste into the oceans because they failed to understand the safety requirements necessary for their nuclear reactors.
The tritium levels in the water they are releasing are far below what is considered safe for drinking water by almost any group in the world. At that level of you were to drink the water all year you would receive a dose of 4 mrem. 30 mrem is the average radiation dose a person receives just from background radiation. But you go off repeating 50 year old fossil fuel propaganda.
Do you take some wine with your daily propaganda meals ?
Nuclear waste? You mean tritium?
It was hit by an unprecedented strong earthquake tsunami combo. No amount of engineering could have prevented its destruction. Bear in mind the Richter scale is not linear. Dumbass.
The tsunami was a direct consequence of the earthquake, they should have calculated that in.
If they canβt build a power plant to the necessary specifications to not explode at that location, they should build it somewhere else.
The scale matters. That earthquake is one of the biggest ever recorded. It's difficult to account for things that are entirely unprecedented. That said, if that actually built it to spec it probably would have survived just fine.
There was literally another plant in nearly the same conditions that survived because they didn't cut corners when building it.
There are quantities of non-tritium radioactive isotopes in the water: https://www.science.org/doi/epdf/10.1126/science.abc1507
These can and do bioaccumulate in fish, but it's unknown whether it is significant enough to cause harm... But there is nonzero risk.
I have asked this guy to tell me what the actual levels of these contaminants are and he won't tell me. Just continues to fearmonger.
The ocean contains 4.5 billion tons of uranium, and that contributes a relatively small minority of the natural radioactivity of the ocean. No regulatory authority with oversight of this has expressed concern and there's no observed contamination in wildlife
I sent you the article, you just haven't opened it.
It's literally not in the article.
It literally is.
I'm really not sure what your confusion is. Do you not have access? I think it's on scihub, but you can also probably access it at your local library.
Yeah it's paywalled. Citing a paywalled source is useless.
Oh use an archive. I use archive.is but there are others like it.
I've told you multiple options for accessing Science... Y'know, one of the most prestigious journals in the world.
It's your source, not mine. I'm not going to a library just because some douchebag on lemmy doesn't understand the need to cite readily available material rather than paywalled content.
It's fucking Science. Not my fault if you're too uneducated to read a paper. But if you're that uneducated, then I'm fairly convinced your argument doesn't make sense in the first place π€·ββοΈ
I'm sorry if I don't pay a subscription to Science. I think you're capable of quoting the appropriate values if you really want to make a point and not just be a cunt.
Some dude linked it on scihub. It's your own stubborn idiocy that prevents you from clicking it.
So it's "I am a cunt" then
Why would Japanese live in China ? Isn't Japan developed than China ?
There's people from pretty much every country living in pretty much every other country.
Why would American live in Canada? Isn't America developed than Canada?
I don't think it is