Ukraine says it has manufactured and fired a long-range missile

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Ukrainian officials say their military is now using a long-range missile that was designed and manufactured domestically and can reach targets inside Russia

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Ukrainian officials say their military is now using a long-range missile that was designed and manufactured domestically and can reach targets inside Russia — a potentially crucial capability because the United States and other Western supporters have imposed restrictions on using weapons they donate to strike Russian territory.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, posting on the social media platform Telegram, said Ukrainian forces had successfully hit a target 700 kilometers (435 miles) away, using a missile “of our own production.”

The secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov, said Friday that the missile could travel farther but did not specify its full range.

“Sevastopol is waiting, Kamchatka is waiting, Kronshtadt is waiting,” Danilov wrote, perhaps with some exaggeration. Kamchatka, in Russia’s Far East, is about 4,500 miles from Ukraine. Reaching it would require an intercontinental ballistic missile, which only 10 countries in the world are believed to possess.

Ukrainian forces are increasingly striking at targets inside Russia and occupied Crimea — which Russia invaded and illegally annexed in 2014. Most of the Ukrainian strikes involve self-destructing water or aerial drones, and units of the country’s intelligence services. Ukraine often denies any connection to such the attacks, but officials privately confirm the strikes or issue statements celebrating them and indicating the involvement of Ukraine’s military or special services.

“The war is increasingly moving to Russia’s territory, and it cannot be stopped,” Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak tweeted Wednesday, after a drone attack on an airfield in Pskov, Russia, damaged or destroyed several military planes.

Kamchatka WTF? Anyone who has played Risk knows that Kamchatka is a long way from Ukraine.

Range is one thing. Hopefully it's accurate or else who knows what they would hit. It wouldn't look good if they hit civilians by accident.

Are there civilians in Russia? I don’t see people protesting too much. Everybody knows Putin couldn’t do shit if millions of Russians marched on the Kremlin.

Of course there civilians in Russia. Most people in Russia are similar to those elsewhere, just trying to get on with their lives despite the stupid decisions their government is making which they lack any real power to affect.

I HIGHLY doubt that most people in Russia are similar to those elsewhere. People in Russia have been through hell and back and most stayed there just because they can't be bothered to do anything - in fact, a big portion supports it all as well, because "they don't know different" (which I personally don't believe anymore - Russians have internet as well and for over 20 years now. Not striving and wanting better lives and just looking out for personal gains is the hell mentioned)

They don’t lack power they lack the conviction

OK, you go ahead and change a decision your government is making.

Come on, we're all waiting for you to prove how easy it is, don't let us down.

You could just have admitted you don’t know history

Right, understanding how difficult influencing things is in a dictatorshipmakes ME the one that doesn't understand something. You're a clown.

Why so emotional? Do you really think Putin would kill millions of Russians marching on the Kreml? That would logistically only be possible with nukes.

The problem is that there aren’t millions of Russians who feel that they need to do something about their country.

Just look at history, worse regimes than the current Russian ones have been toppled by the people.

And the name of a ship with an... incopmetent interesting story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mdi\_Fh9\_Ag

I'm more surprised about Kaliningrad, what route would that even be?!

Go to Moscow, hang a left. When you hit the North Pole, head south...not, not that south, the other one! The other other one. After a bit, take another left for a couple hours, and you'll arrive at your destination on the right.

Poland will write a very strongly worded letter to Zelensky if that happens. They might even keep a straight face when delivering it to the Ukrainian ambassador.

R-36 "Satan" was desinged by and manufactured at Yuzhmash, now Pivden'mash, located in Dnipro, Ukraine. More recently, Pivden'mash has been building "Zenit" rockets, that has >70 successful launches and has a 13.7 t payload to LEO.

I think Ukraine is mostly waiting for a proper excuse rather than capabilities to send non-nucler ICBM in towards strategic locations in Russia.

Or, they've found a viable way to disguise donated long-range missiles so they can be used to strike back at Russia without implicating the country that provided them.

These are 100% identifiable from debris. No one would be fooled by such a farce.

At this point, if Russia stated they were hit with a long range missile from "Country X" and provided pictures of identifiable debris, would anyone actually believe them?

I doubt anyone would actually care. They're getting weapons from NATO members, Russia wouldn't do anything in retaliation.

Russia would VERY MUCH care, and so would any NATO nation for what it'd mean. If a NATO weapon hits Russia, Russia will at minimum start actually threatening nuclear strikes, and probably throw down a lot more of their military to start threatening NATO directly.

No, they wouldn't win sh*t anyways, even if they started using the four nukes that are still operational, but a properly thrashing Russia would be very ugly for the whole region regardless of how fast NATO 'could' end Russia.

Russia has already threatened nuclear strikes. Russia is all threats and no hot sauce. No one believes Putey any more.

Oh I know, but after he'd me making threats he actually meant (and still couldn't pull off) while impotently pounding his fist on a mile long table.

That would have been a possibility if someone donated them some. Wich isn't the case yet, at least officially.

You're not going to officially admit to receiving a missile you're planning to plausibly deny using.

Sure. Absence of proof isn't proof of absence, but nor is it a proof of occurence. Best we can do is to wait for someone to do an error in order to be able to know a bit more.

This is the best summary I could come up with:

MUKACHEVO, Ukraine — Ukrainian officials say their military is now using a long-range missile that was designed and manufactured domestically and can reach targets inside Russia — a potentially crucial capability because the United States and other Western supporters have imposed restrictions on using weapons they donate to strike Russian territory.

The secretary of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council, Oleksiy Danilov, said Friday that the missile could travel farther but did not specify its full range.

Russia is “already feeling” the effect of the new missiles, Danilov said on Ukrainian television, adding: “Production is underway.”

The Ukrainian officials’ statements could not be independently verified, and did not provide further details such as when the missile was fired, what object was struck, or where.

If confirmed, however, a domestically produced long-range missile would be a threshold development for the Ukrainian military, which has been denied similar weapons by Western backers for fear of provoking Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Most of the Ukrainian strikes involve self-destructing water or aerial drones, and units of the country’s intelligence services.

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