I finally created the perfect JavaScript runtime: No-JS

aksdb@feddit.de to Programmer Humor@programming.dev – 196 points –

Every line of code has been audited by all security researchers. The implementation is language agnostic and extremely slim (0 LOC). It runs all the JavaScript I want (none).

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No bugs, no security issues. It's the perfect runtime.

And yet, somehow there is still a bug in the datetime implementation.

Then we can just catch the error and pretend it never happened

Ironically, such a site would more bugs then of it would use Javascript. And security issues are still an issue too.

Basically everything has to be handled through forms and a site reload and hidden components and lots of css :hover events. Have you ever tried making a dropout without Javascript? It isn't impossible, but really hard.

And such sites exist. Just that they're mostly Darknet sites like like Dread or Bohemia

dropout menus are actually pretty easy to do without js

all you need is focus-within and friends.

like i recently made one on my personal project (which fully works without js, which is only used for realtime chat functionality and some additional effects, like loading icons in forms and stuff)

live deployment: https://fortum.pp.ua/
recording: https://streamable.com/4ba0gg

That's pretty impressive. I tried doing something similar a few months ago but couldn't find anything. Are you using a framework or how do you render the site on the server?

about the menu - it's just based on focus-within. no need for any terrible hacks.
about the backend - it's just some basic templates (tera+rocket)

Pretty cool. Btw on your 404 page, the footer is in the center of my screen (vertical center). I am on android using Firefox. I hit the 404 error trying out the search bar. Just thought you might like to know.

yeah it's unfinished, I'm planning to get back to it soon

It's not at all compatible with my katamari ball of totally required libraries and dependencies - 0/10

I really like it and it clearly passed the code review without any issues. But I find the diagnostic messages a bit lacking, it can be hard to debug.

But I find the diagnostic messages a bit lacking

That's weird. Every line of business logic has an infinite amount of logging. Ticket closed; works for me.

Oh, but at the same time every single line of business logic logs nothing of value at all!

Well, it's best practice to only log errors. So .....

No need to de-bug if there is no bugs *taps head*

But you can’t compress or obfuscate it, that’s a downside.

The runtime doesn't need to be obfuscated. Only the code you run with it. You can still compress and obfuscate that and it will run just as well as it did before. Actually you can completely scramble your code and it would still run exactly the same.

Sweet! That means I can encrypt my code to keep prying eyes away.

One cool thing is that the comments are self documenting. I read the program earlier and it's quite clear what it does. Excellent accomplishment, dear colleague!

Sweet! Now I don't have to recursively write comments to explain the meaning of each comment

Honestly, many of my colleagues need to use this instead of the balls of mud they manage to create.