How Much Spying do We as a Society Wish to Allow?

sic_semper_tyrannis@feddit.ch to Technology@lemmy.world – 214 points –
Your car collects information on your sexual activity and you consented to it
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Almost everything based in technology spies on everyone now a days and most people are alright with it. I don't understand why people are okay knowing this spying exists. Louis Rossman does a great job here showing us the disgusting tactics used by big corporations to gaslight people into believing them over what these companies are really nefariously up to.

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My (often unpopular) opinion is: none. Our government agencies should exert their efforts improving privacy and security rather than subverting it. We should be a nation of white hat hackers.

That would be amazing. I also think that everything and everyone one in any level of government should let their actions, money, etc. be open source and viewable to everyone.

I agree with you strongly. We have the technology, it's just pointed at the wrong crowd. The eyes of the surveillance state should be on the rich and powerful, not the masses. The price of power should be the loss of privacy.

It sounds great in a world where peace is the standard, but we don't live in that world.

You want our military and DoD activities to be fully transparent? Why? So any country on earth can bend us over a couch? Yeah let's be fully transparent about what we are buying and where it's going.

Look at how much money the US spends (creates) for their military. It's more and more and more every year and we have no idea were lots of it goes towards. Then wars are milked for the military industrial complex to profit off of. Certainly some operations can be kept secret to some degree but it has gone way too far currently.

It isn't so much a matter of secrecy as a lack of oversight. If they have a shitty contract awarding system it isn't secret just that no one is watching it.

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They are. In this case their view is that they'd rather your car be able to receive security updates via ota than be subject to hacking by Blackhats unknown. And as a result they aren't necessarily going to go back on that because the automaker is selling your data. What we need are data privacy laws. But security laws are already in place in a lot of cases.

its not that ur opinion is unpopular but its about as good as saying communism is good. which is to say it is good on paper but it wouldn't work in practice due to people being people

That goes for everything, doesn't mean we shouldn't try, or should we remove laws casmuse people still steal, murder ect and get away with it

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That's it. I won't have sex in my car any more.

I mean if I had a car, I wouldn't have sex in it any more.

If I had sex that is.

Couldn't we at least use this data for something useful? Like help me find a date with a possible future girlfriend?

I'd like to give my vehicle consent, to unexpectedly drive me to a blind date, with another car owner. Sounds romantically.

Ah don't understand why people overreact.. We have nothing to hide.. Its that what everyone says? But in case that wasn't clean.. First line was sarcasm

Remember there is a difference between spying and monitoring based on consent. If I ask the police to put up security cameras on my street due to crime that is monitoring, if someone hides a camera in a tree and aims it at my house that is spying.

If someone hides what they're "monitoring", and what theyre doing with it, from you in vague definitions and legalese ToS, it's still spying.

You hire a security guard to monitor your street and he has his binoculars pointed at bedroom windows most of the night, which one is that? Those windows ARE on the street to monitor.