Why would they? Their important allies are cheering their genocide on.
Especially my own gold plated, all American shithole.
Just in case our supposedly wealthy nation's innumerable tent cities bursting with our own people dying of exposure and law enforcement harassment for the crime of being sub-optimal capital batteries didn't clue you in about who we are and how little we value human life in modern times.
It's funny that Isreal doesn't see any irony in what they're doing right now.
It makes me lose all hope for any future for our species that the Holocaust is just passing out of living memory, and the Far Right is on the Rise in Germany, and the Jewish State founded by the Holocaust's survivors is doing a genocide.
Humans as a species can't retain the importance of the lessons of history, even in the age of digital records. We just refuse. World War II ended 78 years ago, a single average human lifespan almost exactly, and here we are after most of the world and especially the parties most directly involved resolutely declared "never again."
TIL "never" ≈ 80 Earth years
Yes, history teaches us things always go in cycles, the type and length varies, but cycles.
Those people who said never are dead, their children never had to live through it, so why would they say never?
Why limit our retention of knowledge to the quantitative?
We shouldn't have to kill an entire people every generation to be too horrified to do it again, just as we don't have to relearn how to make transistors for processing units every generation.
Hey! I'm still alive and probably still have some decades to go. You can (and should) oppose fascism without being a direct survivor.
Yeah, but look at that streak! The "never again" following the Great War was only ~15 years.
I continue to believe we're making measurable gains
Yeah it's just like that. Remember how Poland was shooting rockets into Germany and slaughtering the civilians there regularly? Oh wait, none of that happened.
Self-defense did not characterize Germany's behavior during world war II, it absolutely does characterize Israel's behavior regarding Palestine.
They absolutely do that's why they keep pumping out propaganda like the Taylor Swift bodyguard bs
Guess the Palestinian's should be thankful the statement implies there will be any Gaza left for them.
This trail of tears will surely end the cycle of violence and hate.
I think it was their foreign minister that was saying the other day that he considers every resident an enemy combatant...
So progress?
I'll play devil's advocate, while hate is definitely still there today, the military actions and trails of tears definitely stopped violence between the US and Native Americans.
Duh. Israel is going to want to monitor the region for a long time to make sure Hamas isn't coming back. That's going to mean boots on the ground.
Other nations that want to stop this from being permanent will need to step up and volunteer their own soldiers to monitor the region because Israel won't give up the land without some strong promises that things won't slip
Israel is going to want to monitor the region for a long time to make sure Hamas isn't coming back.
Should have been a lot of things. Bibi can go get fucked but in the here and now Israel is going to make sure this conflict ends by force. No more Hamas for nutcases like Bibi to fund.
No more Palestinians either, apparently.
A lot fewer, based on the attacks so far. While I'm sure lots of people would prefer Gaza to be pushed into the ocean, the end result will likely still be Palestinian but with a different government and decades of rebuilding. It sounds like Israel is mirroring the Iraq or Japan invasion method which means a tear down and rebuild of government that will need to keep promises about launching rockets and other attacks.
That's not how stopping terrorism works. Look at Afghanistan. The US spent 20 years trying to kill them off. For every one killed, 2 more got radicalized. It's almost like slaughtering them makes them hate the occupiers more, not less. The Taliban took back the whole country in a couple days after being occupied for 20 years. Stopping terrorism with violence doesn't work.
Afghanistan is a giant country. Gaza is the size of Las Vegas. Do you think maybe that will have an impact?
Not even trying to hide it anymore.
Why would they? Their important allies are cheering their genocide on.
Especially my own gold plated, all American shithole.
Just in case our supposedly wealthy nation's innumerable tent cities bursting with our own people dying of exposure and law enforcement harassment for the crime of being sub-optimal capital batteries didn't clue you in about who we are and how little we value human life in modern times.
It's funny that Isreal doesn't see any irony in what they're doing right now.
It makes me lose all hope for any future for our species that the Holocaust is just passing out of living memory, and the Far Right is on the Rise in Germany, and the Jewish State founded by the Holocaust's survivors is doing a genocide.
Humans as a species can't retain the importance of the lessons of history, even in the age of digital records. We just refuse. World War II ended 78 years ago, a single average human lifespan almost exactly, and here we are after most of the world and especially the parties most directly involved resolutely declared "never again."
TIL "never" ≈ 80 Earth years
Yes, history teaches us things always go in cycles, the type and length varies, but cycles. Those people who said never are dead, their children never had to live through it, so why would they say never?
Why limit our retention of knowledge to the quantitative?
We shouldn't have to kill an entire people every generation to be too horrified to do it again, just as we don't have to relearn how to make transistors for processing units every generation.
Hey! I'm still alive and probably still have some decades to go. You can (and should) oppose fascism without being a direct survivor.
Yeah, but look at that streak! The "never again" following the Great War was only ~15 years.
I continue to believe we're making measurable gains
Keep the faith Ted Lasso.
They need their lebensraum
Yeah it's just like that. Remember how Poland was shooting rockets into Germany and slaughtering the civilians there regularly? Oh wait, none of that happened.
Self-defense did not characterize Germany's behavior during world war II, it absolutely does characterize Israel's behavior regarding Palestine.
They absolutely do that's why they keep pumping out propaganda like the Taylor Swift bodyguard bs
Guess the Palestinian's should be thankful the statement implies there will be any Gaza left for them.
This trail of tears will surely end the cycle of violence and hate.
I think it was their foreign minister that was saying the other day that he considers every resident an enemy combatant...
So progress?
I'll play devil's advocate, while hate is definitely still there today, the military actions and trails of tears definitely stopped violence between the US and Native Americans.
That is top tier Devil Advocating.
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Come on all, don't link to the fucking Washington Examiner.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/
…of course it will.
Duh. Israel is going to want to monitor the region for a long time to make sure Hamas isn't coming back. That's going to mean boots on the ground.
Other nations that want to stop this from being permanent will need to step up and volunteer their own soldiers to monitor the region because Israel won't give up the land without some strong promises that things won't slip
Wasn’t Netenyahu sending funds to Hamas?Maybe stopping that should have been the first step.
Should have been a lot of things. Bibi can go get fucked but in the here and now Israel is going to make sure this conflict ends by force. No more Hamas for nutcases like Bibi to fund.
No more Palestinians either, apparently.
A lot fewer, based on the attacks so far. While I'm sure lots of people would prefer Gaza to be pushed into the ocean, the end result will likely still be Palestinian but with a different government and decades of rebuilding. It sounds like Israel is mirroring the Iraq or Japan invasion method which means a tear down and rebuild of government that will need to keep promises about launching rockets and other attacks.
That's not how stopping terrorism works. Look at Afghanistan. The US spent 20 years trying to kill them off. For every one killed, 2 more got radicalized. It's almost like slaughtering them makes them hate the occupiers more, not less. The Taliban took back the whole country in a couple days after being occupied for 20 years. Stopping terrorism with violence doesn't work.
Afghanistan is a giant country. Gaza is the size of Las Vegas. Do you think maybe that will have an impact?