Elon Musk "We dug our own grave with 'FULL SELF DRIVING""
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I considered hard weather this really belongs in Technology, but came to the conclusion that exposing a scammer that is considered a tech genius, does belong here. Because debunking a technology company is as important as showing it, when it's considered valid.
That said, I believe most people here are already aware that Musk is not to be trusted blindly. But just how bad it really is, may be news to some.
Someone mentioned this and it always stuck with me - never trust someone who makes failure collective ("we dug our grave”), but success individual.
Such a great rule, for real
There wasn't even a "we" here... This was 100% Elon being an arrogant dumbass.
How about the other way around?
You should look for Last Week Tonight's segment on Elon. I think John Olivers take was fair.
It seemed a bit too fair to Elon Musk IMO. It felt like John Oliver held back the punches.
Oliver completely neglected to cover the fact that Hyperloop was a scam to defraud the Californian taxpayer out of high speed rail. (Elmo wins doubly: through the government grant in Hyperloop and through Tesla car sales.)
Yeah, I was hoping he'd mention more of his "promise X by this year" schtick that he does over and over and never delivers on. Or like showcase the robots being supported by cables walking stifly.
I've seen every Elon video by thunderfoot, I just thought it be helpful to see someone else's critique that is a bit more positive of Elon but cautious.
Didn't even mention Mastodon once.
I recommend Some More News. Their shows are more in depth, longer, and musk is a 2 parter. Plus there is a third episode on self driving cars alone.
Very measured take on the man and his contributions, both good and bad. I appreciated that he drew attention to the fact that once people have decided you're a net positive, they just explain away anything bad about you.
Hard pass. Anyone who decided that the shithead reactionary bigots were the side of gamergate they wanted to support isn't getting views from me, thanks.
hbomberguy did a good video on thunderf00t
Thank you for reminding me about that. Time for a rewatch.
I always thought he was legit because he would post great "science" debunking videos and shat on dumb brexiteers. So when I watched the Anita ones I felt the same. Gonna need to watch the hbomber vidya.
Remember Thunderf00t may open himself to lawsuits making these claims publicly. But I'm sure he considered that first, and came to the conclusion, that everything he says, he can document is true. I've run into his material from time to time already from about 15 years ago, and he is 100% a VERY smart guy, that knows what he is talking about.
Except about SpaceX, I'm not going to dig though the threads right now, but he's been hilariously wrong about SpaceX in the past. Though not as bad as common sense skeptic though if I'm remembering right.
How is he wrong about SpaceX? As far as I can tell, he is spot on. If a NASA program had as many failures as SpaceX has, it would be closed down. And the economic claims Musk make for SpaceX are insane.
I think it was the comparisons to other launch vehicles that were very apples to oranges. But as I said, I'd rather not dig through the Reddit threads to find them. I think they were on SpaceX lounge a few years ago? Common sense skeptic commented, but I don't think thunderfoot did.
Are you aware he is a chemist, and has worked in areas related. Not 1 in a thousand understand as well as he how a rocket actually works.
So my guess is that almost everybody else, myself included, who speak on those issues know less.
Have you seen actual experts contradict what he said?
Yeah I know he's a chemist. I'm an engineer. Some of the other people in the thread were engineers too. Anyway, it was just Wikipedia level incorrect information sort of stuff more than deduction of chemistry.
OK, then you know more than me, I'm just not aware of the apples to oranges comparison you mention. And his recent claims he posed on YouTube are spot on IMO.
Here's one of the vids with bad comparisons I was taking about
https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/lrhwxq/i_fact_checked_thunderf00ts_spacex_busted_part_1/
I admit already that first point about 10% being more like 20% doesn't look good. I viewed the video, and it seems he may have done that on purpose to facilitate a kind of wordplay between 10 times and 10%, which would be dishonest. Haven't got time to view the rest now, but you made your point.
You're being trolled, dude.