They should. Incredibly irresponsible drug to distribute without medical grade attention to detail. The difference between life and death is a couplemicro grams... A tiny antihystamine tablet is ~10mg.
Problem is the problem can't be solved by locking anyone up. As long as they're are billions of dollars to be made someone will always fill the void. I agree that deals should be locked up but how are they planning on stopping the next guy? Without a social plan to prevent and treat addiction it's a lost fight. Nearly 60 years of the war on drugs and nothing to show for it
The war on drugs failed purely because it was punitive only. You cannot fix things by hitting them with a stick, no matter how many morons swear by the practice.
No matter what ELSE a valid fix should include, getting rid of irresponsible dipshits that get people killed is a good thing. Any drug dealer interested in keeping customers should be punishing people selling them fentanyl, not attempting to distribute it.
Dumb question, but do people specifically request fentanyl by name from their dealers? I always thought it was used as an adulterant in other opiates.
People definitely request it specifically for the high it provides.
When word gets out that someone od’d on fentanyl from a dealer, said dealer becomes more popular and sought after.
I've got an old buddy in jail for murder for this reason.
He'll get out in a few years, I think. All of our friends basically said "Well, that was bound to happen eventually. That fucking idiot."
He was such a nice guy before he went off the deep end, started feeling proud of his time behind bars and that there was no hope of escaping his addictions.
My cousin actually died from fentanyl OD, my aunt is currently pursuing charges against his dealer. I know the police seized his vehicles and found fentanyl at his house, but the charge for homicide is still ongoing.
I had a sweaty guy going into withdrawal randomly walk up to me as I was walking and ask to find him a job dealing drugs last night. Strangest interaction I've had in awhile. I was gonna ask him for his references but maybe I should've informed him about the potential for a murder charge.
You gotta make sure his medical malpractice insurance is up to date.
Ah, we can't go that far. I'm only a registered nurse so I can't oversee providers.
I'm sure it must have felt awkward for him too, having to ask random strangers how to get into the drug dealing business.
I think the first step would be getting drugs. Then idk 🤷
It's not hard. You can get opiates smuggled to you right through the US mail from the dark web. That's generally not how a junkie going through withdrawals will approach things though and giving them drugs to sell seems like a losing investment, lol.
I think he was just sizing me up to rob me but then quickly realized that was a very bad idea
ask him for references….
ROFL!
Every town needs cheap clean heroin available upon request to prevent these deaths and lower crime
Now let's charge auto manufacturers for killing tens of millions of people.
How does that make any sense??
If you want to make a car analogy, it would be like charging with murder some guy that sells cars that everyone knows are stolen, but then he strips down all the parts he can get away with without the client noticing, knowing full well that whoever buys that shit is going to slam into a fucking wall because it ain't even got brakes.
Yeah, charge that fucker with murder.
Cars, legally manufactured to facilitate travel from place to place when used correctly and within the laws created that govern their use.
Please, tell us all exactly how this is comparable to illegal drugs, I’d love to hear it.
I'll try...
Fentanyl is drug, legally manufactured in China and used in clinical trials which, when used correctly and within the laws, can facilitate treatment of Addiction, PTSD, and depression.
Also imagine how many animals are killed by cars. And how many habitats have become uninhabitable to the toxicity of the tire and exhaust pollutants.
Fentanyl is used in hospitals as a pain killer... I've never heard of it being used for the stuff you listed. Are you thinking of ketamine?
Fentanyl is legal when used under supervision- ONLY.
Also… all fentanyl fatalities legally possessed their drugs? Is that what you’re saying? So…every junkie death happened under a psychiatrists supervision? Because most car fatalities happens to people who legally own their vehicle- save for those that happens as a result of vehicle theft, or illegal operation.
Legality is flexible and can usually be bought by the highest bidder. And just because cars are obtained legally, doesn't mean they are used as the manufacturer intended.
With fentanyl, we should stop blaming the homeless person and blame the manufacturer of the drug. In the same way, we should also stop blaming the drivers for killing people and blame the manufacturers that lobbied to make automobile transportation the only way to get around.
Ahh… you’re one of those people. It’s clearly pointless to continue this.
They should. Incredibly irresponsible drug to distribute without medical grade attention to detail. The difference between life and death is a couple micro grams... A tiny antihystamine tablet is ~10mg.
Problem is the problem can't be solved by locking anyone up. As long as they're are billions of dollars to be made someone will always fill the void. I agree that deals should be locked up but how are they planning on stopping the next guy? Without a social plan to prevent and treat addiction it's a lost fight. Nearly 60 years of the war on drugs and nothing to show for it
The war on drugs failed purely because it was punitive only. You cannot fix things by hitting them with a stick, no matter how many morons swear by the practice.
No matter what ELSE a valid fix should include, getting rid of irresponsible dipshits that get people killed is a good thing. Any drug dealer interested in keeping customers should be punishing people selling them fentanyl, not attempting to distribute it.
Dumb question, but do people specifically request fentanyl by name from their dealers? I always thought it was used as an adulterant in other opiates.
People definitely request it specifically for the high it provides.
When word gets out that someone od’d on fentanyl from a dealer, said dealer becomes more popular and sought after.
I've got an old buddy in jail for murder for this reason.
He'll get out in a few years, I think. All of our friends basically said "Well, that was bound to happen eventually. That fucking idiot."
He was such a nice guy before he went off the deep end, started feeling proud of his time behind bars and that there was no hope of escaping his addictions.
My cousin actually died from fentanyl OD, my aunt is currently pursuing charges against his dealer. I know the police seized his vehicles and found fentanyl at his house, but the charge for homicide is still ongoing.
I had a sweaty guy going into withdrawal randomly walk up to me as I was walking and ask to find him a job dealing drugs last night. Strangest interaction I've had in awhile. I was gonna ask him for his references but maybe I should've informed him about the potential for a murder charge.
You gotta make sure his medical malpractice insurance is up to date.
Ah, we can't go that far. I'm only a registered nurse so I can't oversee providers.
I'm sure it must have felt awkward for him too, having to ask random strangers how to get into the drug dealing business.
I think the first step would be getting drugs. Then idk 🤷
It's not hard. You can get opiates smuggled to you right through the US mail from the dark web. That's generally not how a junkie going through withdrawals will approach things though and giving them drugs to sell seems like a losing investment, lol.
I think he was just sizing me up to rob me but then quickly realized that was a very bad idea
ROFL!
Every town needs cheap clean heroin available upon request to prevent these deaths and lower crime
Now let's charge auto manufacturers for killing tens of millions of people.
How does that make any sense??
If you want to make a car analogy, it would be like charging with murder some guy that sells cars that everyone knows are stolen, but then he strips down all the parts he can get away with without the client noticing, knowing full well that whoever buys that shit is going to slam into a fucking wall because it ain't even got brakes.
Yeah, charge that fucker with murder.
Cars, legally manufactured to facilitate travel from place to place when used correctly and within the laws created that govern their use.
Please, tell us all exactly how this is comparable to illegal drugs, I’d love to hear it.
I'll try...
Fentanyl is drug, legally manufactured in China and used in clinical trials which, when used correctly and within the laws, can facilitate treatment of Addiction, PTSD, and depression.
Also imagine how many animals are killed by cars. And how many habitats have become uninhabitable to the toxicity of the tire and exhaust pollutants.
Fentanyl is used in hospitals as a pain killer... I've never heard of it being used for the stuff you listed. Are you thinking of ketamine?
Fentanyl is legal when used under supervision- ONLY.
Also… all fentanyl fatalities legally possessed their drugs? Is that what you’re saying? So…every junkie death happened under a psychiatrists supervision? Because most car fatalities happens to people who legally own their vehicle- save for those that happens as a result of vehicle theft, or illegal operation.
Legality is flexible and can usually be bought by the highest bidder. And just because cars are obtained legally, doesn't mean they are used as the manufacturer intended.
With fentanyl, we should stop blaming the homeless person and blame the manufacturer of the drug. In the same way, we should also stop blaming the drivers for killing people and blame the manufacturers that lobbied to make automobile transportation the only way to get around.
Ahh… you’re one of those people. It’s clearly pointless to continue this.