I was detained at a US airport and asked about Israel and Gaza for 2 hours. Why? | Ilan Pappé

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I was detained at a US airport and asked about Israel and Gaza for 2 hours. Why? | Ilan Pappé
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I was held for two hours. The first round of questions was about my views on Hamas. Then the agents wished to know whether I thought Israel’s actions in the Gaza Strip amount to genocide and what I think of the slogan “Palestine should be free from the river to the sea”. I said yes, I do think Israel is committing genocide. As to the slogan, I said that in my view people anywhere in the world should be free.

Then the agents interrogated me about who I know in the Arab American and Muslim American community. They asked me to provide them with telephone numbers, took my phone away for quite a long period and asked to wait until they made some phone calls before they let me go.

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Wow, there is really some shit going on in USA, we would usually only expect from a totalitarian regime, and absolutely not from a democracy.

Wow, there is really some shit going on in USA, we would usually only expect from a totalitarian regime, and absolutely not from a democracy.

The biggest issue is that the Biden administration is laying the pavement like they are.

This happens in almost every countries customs, its not unique to the US

Well that's what we get for letting Trump win... Huh? What's that? Biden is still President?

Created by GW Bush in 2008, passed in 2009 :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_Security_Screening_Selection

Not all laws are recent you know.

Presidential administrations have a huge amout of discretion in how they administer the law in our system. Just look at the way border security processes constantly change despite no new legislation being passed. And you know that very well. If Trump was in office, you would absolutely put the blame at his feet.

Last time trump was in office, people were rightfully blaming him for a lot of shit he publicly acclaimed.

On his watch, you don't need to dig for reasons to hate him, he gives quite a lot of those.

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AFAIK the basis for these checks were established under Bush. So mostly designed by Republicans and not democrats.

We've had two Obama terms and one entire Biden term since then.

Damn it's so sad no democrat president was elected before yesterday, but now that a non fascist is in power I'm sure those unjust laws will be repealed any second

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The first round of questions was about my views on Hamas. Then the agents wished to know whether I thought Israel’s actions in the Gaza Strip amount to genocide and what I think of the slogan “Palestine should be free from the river to the sea”.

In a situation like this, the only correct answers are "lawyer" and silence.

If you are detained at foreign border security, unfortunately, you don't have guaranteed legal rights to a lawyer. They can unilaterally ask for statements, seize property given up for search, or deny entry on any grounds.

Airports are their own legal zones, similiar to embassies, in US? What the hell?

or deny entry on any grounds.

I thought that's the only thing they can do?

There's a 100mi border zone around the coast where you have no 4th amendment rights, and CBP likes to abuse that fact.

Wasn't it also 100 mile zone around international airports too?

Yeah that's not how CBP works especially for non citizens. I tell Americans this all the time and nobody believes it. Until it happens to them or someone they know.

You have zero rights. You can be detained without legal representation or cause for 72 hours thanks to the Patriot Act. Even as a citizen. Your electronics seized and spied on. All your social media, email, picture, everything read. It happens daily.

It happens more often to black and brown people and non citizens. But it shouldn't happen at all.

I would tell the bums to look up the Warsaw Ghetto during WW II.

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Then the agents wished to know whether I thought Israel’s actions in the Gaza Strip amount to genocide and what I think of the slogan “Palestine should be free from the river to the sea”.

Why are ostensibly liberal and democratic countries so interested in profiling or restricting academics who are trying to share our professionally informed views about Israel and Gaza with the North American and European public?

In addition to his academic post, Abu Sitta has practiced as a physician in Gaza and is able to provide first-hand testimony about what is happening there on the ground.

Many other well-known and well-versed academics who can provide in-depth analysis, which is not always to be found in the mainstream media, are also affected by the threat or possibility of travel restrictions.

Antisemitism definitions, such as those outlined by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, are weaponized to silence any show of solidarity with the Palestinians.

In the process I learned that only detailed historical research, which, alas, ended in a rather long book, can explain North American and European politicians’ Pavlovian responses to people’s attempts to exercise their speech rights on the Palestinian struggle.


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So basically a foreign national that potentially has connections to Hamas went through customs and got asked questions for two hours. Whats the story here?

Found the racist

They do mod/love to post in conservative communities

Thats a horrid thing to say, dont call people mods, its not polite. Quite uncouth I say!

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