Guess what!
There's a whole generation of old men about to pass away, most of them tradesmen. And in my experience, crotchety and unwilling to teach.
Because this generation generally has less interest in trades, likely from being viewed down upon (see above), there is going to be a severe shortage of people working in the trades.
This will possibly mean two things:
Companies are going to scramble desperately to get new apprentices, so -good news- more jobs.
But, expect a startling lack of quality in the years to come.
There's a startling lack of quality a lot of the time now, it's gonna get hella bad when the trades-boomers go.
True enough. I can only hear "NoBoDy WaNtS tO WoRk AnYmOrE" so many times before i figure who's to blame for that
Exactly. Nobody wants to work for unliveable wages. It's a wage shortage, not a labour shortage.
Or, after being tired of being lowballed for work and offers to be paid in exposure, "fuck you, pay me."
A local (and very well off) welding company wanted me to pay for my own courses and equipment when I applied. It would have been hundreds of dollars out of my pocket, for MAYBE a chance to be taken on as an apprentice, if I withstand being the shop bítch for long enough.
PART TIME.
yea,
FUCK OFF
Those “small business” owners:
“Buying my third luxury car is so expensive, why are prices going up? Must be the government”
Unreal. What do they expect you to live off?
This is so crazy to me. I got into a low voltage trade and everything was paid for. I brought minor hand tools, but everything over 100$ was provided. And that is like standard around me (for new guys). Also amazing wages once you're a well experienced worker. (Talking 5 years or so).
Maybe not welding, or electrician, but pipefitters, plumberd, fire guys, all great trades.
What kind of work is that if I were to go looking? I really enjoyed control wiring for HVAC systems, didn't enjoy lugging boilers up flights of stairs or brazing compressors in place in Manhattan with 1/2sqft of space to work in...
My work specifically i very company dependant, but data wire, access control, fire, cameras, all the fun "low voltage" stuff. Normally you'll find Access, Security, and Cameras bundled. Sometimes with Fire, sometimes Data. All depends on who ya look for!
The school I went to, you were basically sold to the employer LOL. They paid for your school when they hired you. You just had to agree to work there for a couple of years.
What trade? I've heard of that happening to auto techs
That's the one
lost Italian?
uh
Sorry, it’s just that in Italy it’s the exact, same thing
I wasn't aware, that truly blows...
I wonder what generation that kind of attitude will end at. There's nothing to gain by not even letting people get their foot in the door
Most trade jobs don't pay enough. As an auto tech The offerings are not good, because most dealers keep most of the profits. Nurses are getting screwed left and right too. I tried switching over to being a truck driver and they actually pay less now than they used to, this is after the supposed shortage and I was out 14hrs a day.
???? How can they have a shortage of workers, but try to justify paying people less???
I swear to fucking god, the mental gymnastics these fuckers do is phenomenal
I'm a former auto tech who got into sales, after seeing my complete moron coworkers who knew nothing about their jobs and wrote bad checks that I was supposed to cash, making twice as much money as me.
Or in my case: "cool no one wants to pay me, I guess I'm taking the $1000 out of savings and starting my own businesses." It's way more stress, but I'm making enough money that I can think about buying a house and retiring before I die.
Waiting for Lemmy anti-capitalists in 3… 2…
He started a business with a grand and got lucky. How many people wouldn't be successful with that grand? How many people don't even have that money to spare?
Skill shortage probably comes the same way as bankruptcy: gradually, then suddenly. We are probably in the slowly running out of tradesmen phase of the craftocalypse.
Things are built to spec. Everybody wants that 4500sf house but most people don't know what quality looks like. When I was house shopping, the new construction homes homes already made me very disappointed and leary. I eventually bought an older home with a Stablok panel and felt better about that. 😂 Swapped the panel out after close, I'm not nuts.
I eventually bought an older home with a Stablok panel and felt better about that.
My house had a Bulldog panel with the original 1960s inspection sticker still attached to it. Swapped it for a modern 200 amp panel when I had my solar panels installed.
It's hard to buy a new house in my area... They're so expensive, and the quality just isn't there.
Leery is a synonym of wary. Leary is an angry man named Dennis that we thought was funny for a year or two.
Also a tenured Harvard psychologist turned spiritual guru through drug experimentation.
RIP Timothy Leary.
And apart from that, he'll be so kind, and consenting to blow your mind
Guess what!
There's a whole generation of old men about to pass away, most of them tradesmen. And in my experience, crotchety and unwilling to teach.
Because this generation generally has less interest in trades, likely from being viewed down upon (see above), there is going to be a severe shortage of people working in the trades.
This will possibly mean two things:
Companies are going to scramble desperately to get new apprentices, so -good news- more jobs. But, expect a startling lack of quality in the years to come.
There's a startling lack of quality a lot of the time now, it's gonna get hella bad when the trades-boomers go.
True enough. I can only hear "NoBoDy WaNtS tO WoRk AnYmOrE" so many times before i figure who's to blame for that
Exactly. Nobody wants to work for unliveable wages. It's a wage shortage, not a labour shortage.
Or, after being tired of being lowballed for work and offers to be paid in exposure, "fuck you, pay me."
A local (and very well off) welding company wanted me to pay for my own courses and equipment when I applied. It would have been hundreds of dollars out of my pocket, for MAYBE a chance to be taken on as an apprentice, if I withstand being the shop bítch for long enough.
PART TIME.
yea,
FUCK OFF
Those “small business” owners:
“Buying my third luxury car is so expensive, why are prices going up? Must be the government”
Unreal. What do they expect you to live off?
This is so crazy to me. I got into a low voltage trade and everything was paid for. I brought minor hand tools, but everything over 100$ was provided. And that is like standard around me (for new guys). Also amazing wages once you're a well experienced worker. (Talking 5 years or so).
Maybe not welding, or electrician, but pipefitters, plumberd, fire guys, all great trades.
What kind of work is that if I were to go looking? I really enjoyed control wiring for HVAC systems, didn't enjoy lugging boilers up flights of stairs or brazing compressors in place in Manhattan with 1/2sqft of space to work in...
My work specifically i very company dependant, but data wire, access control, fire, cameras, all the fun "low voltage" stuff. Normally you'll find Access, Security, and Cameras bundled. Sometimes with Fire, sometimes Data. All depends on who ya look for!
The school I went to, you were basically sold to the employer LOL. They paid for your school when they hired you. You just had to agree to work there for a couple of years.
What trade? I've heard of that happening to auto techs
That's the one
lost Italian?
uh
Sorry, it’s just that in Italy it’s the exact, same thing
I wasn't aware, that truly blows...
I wonder what generation that kind of attitude will end at. There's nothing to gain by not even letting people get their foot in the door
Most trade jobs don't pay enough. As an auto tech The offerings are not good, because most dealers keep most of the profits. Nurses are getting screwed left and right too. I tried switching over to being a truck driver and they actually pay less now than they used to, this is after the supposed shortage and I was out 14hrs a day.
???? How can they have a shortage of workers, but try to justify paying people less???
I swear to fucking god, the mental gymnastics these fuckers do is phenomenal
I'm a former auto tech who got into sales, after seeing my complete moron coworkers who knew nothing about their jobs and wrote bad checks that I was supposed to cash, making twice as much money as me.
Or in my case: "cool no one wants to pay me, I guess I'm taking the $1000 out of savings and starting my own businesses." It's way more stress, but I'm making enough money that I can think about buying a house and retiring before I die.
Waiting for Lemmy anti-capitalists in 3… 2…
He started a business with a grand and got lucky. How many people wouldn't be successful with that grand? How many people don't even have that money to spare?
Skill shortage probably comes the same way as bankruptcy: gradually, then suddenly. We are probably in the slowly running out of tradesmen phase of the craftocalypse.
Things are built to spec. Everybody wants that 4500sf house but most people don't know what quality looks like. When I was house shopping, the new construction homes homes already made me very disappointed and leary. I eventually bought an older home with a Stablok panel and felt better about that. 😂 Swapped the panel out after close, I'm not nuts.
My house had a Bulldog panel with the original 1960s inspection sticker still attached to it. Swapped it for a modern 200 amp panel when I had my solar panels installed.
It's hard to buy a new house in my area... They're so expensive, and the quality just isn't there.
Leery is a synonym of wary. Leary is an angry man named Dennis that we thought was funny for a year or two.
Also a tenured Harvard psychologist turned spiritual guru through drug experimentation.
RIP Timothy Leary.
And apart from that, he'll be so kind, and consenting to blow your mind
I doubled up on homes too. \o/
Germans have a word for it. Fachkräftemangel
I am seeing 3 words there Fach Kraft Mangel..... Germans disapprove of Kraft making manual laundry wringing mechanisms?
I only know what a mangel is called because of a Steven King short story
I didn't know that meaning of Mangel. In this case it's just shortage and Fachkraft would be translated to professional.
No one looks down upon them. They're just crappy jobs that take a toll on your body and health over time.
They try to make it so appealing though, "Oh if you get your Red Seal, you can work anywhere I Canada."
Great, I can be underpaid in ANY province I want.
Southpark’s latest special covers this.
Nobody knows how to do shit anymore!