Alan Hostetter, ex-police chief who brought hatchet to Capitol on Jan. 6, sentenced to 11 years in prison

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Alan Hostetter, ex-police chief who brought hatchet to Capitol on Jan. 6, sentenced to 11 years in prison
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Apparently, Ashli Babbitt's mother was in attendance (who knows why). Anyway, this Hostetter dude mentioned Ashli's name, among all his other brain dead statements. He claimed she's not actually dead! The mother afterwards said that said didn't like the comment, but thought that his sentence was too long. How at that point do you not simply say screw him, pile it on?! She's so gone on her own nonsense probably she can't even see the people she "sides with" have no interest other than to use her daughter as a prop. And it's pretty fucking sick. I wish them all the worst.

Apparently, Ashli Babbitt’s mother was in attendance (who knows why)

Yeah, she's been trying to capitalize on the comically stupid and pointless death of her traitor daughter for awhile now.

there's no gain from mocking a death. don't preoccupy yourself here

additive : death sucks

I'll mock traitors all I want. Take this sanctimonious nonsense somewhere else.

I disagree that her death was "comical" but mocking her absolutely serves the purpose of preventing her being elevated as a martyr for a stupid cause. The more everyone says she's a sad joke who threw her life away for nothing, the harder it is for martyrdom to gain traction. I'm here for it.

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Counterpoint: Henry Kissinger

who

War criminal from the Nixon administration. Lead to the deaths of millions in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Pakistan, and many other countries. He died last week and the entire world was celebrating

Do you not know of the Darwin Awards?

Or are you the type of person who "doesn't speak ill of the dead" even though they might have done stupid or evil things?

who is mike johnson

Whew, gonna block you man.

Everything you've said so far has been unhinged.

I agree that everything the commenter has said has been unhinged (like, way unhinged). Buuut, it’s not like he has your personal phone number texting you every 5 minutes. Haha

What is the point of blocking someone you’ll probably never engage with again?

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There's no gain for trying to breach a secured area either.

You know there is. It's just incredibly high risk.

What did she win for her valiant attempt? It doesn't seem to be more than consequences. If it was really worth it I woud think more of those brave freethinkers would have piled in. That security guard had a Glock with no more than 17 rounds so it's not like they all would get the same reward babbit did.

She wasn’t successful. There are only rewards if you can breach, get the prize, and get out.

Babit shows the full extent of the risk.

Well a lot of them seemed to get in and get out and not face persecution for years. What did they get? Selfies?

Well, they didn't stop the certification of the election which was their apparent goal. Not sure the statute of limitations on insurrection.

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So Ashlin Babbitt got her dumb ass self killed. Now her fellow "patriots" think that she was a planted actor as part of the deep state. That's some chef's kiss irony right there.

Also, the fact that this dude brought weapons to an insurrection with the intent of "putting the fear of God" into Congress, and then has the balls to claim that January 6th was a false flag is some serious mental gymnastics. Is he claiming that he's a deep state plant himself?

people who have something to gain from her are probably extremely kind to her.

I'm thinking of how they used Paula Jones in the Clinton impeachment kinda thing.

It's tough because a lot of these people don't really have a choice unless they want to be alone.

Either their talked down on by liberals, or taken advantage of by conservatives.

I think the solution would be for liberals to be kinder and more compassionate to people like this because they clearly don't know any better! I don't think most of you can do it though because you're not actually good people.

This reads as very out of touch. I grew up with conservatives and am now very liberal. I am not an asshole to them but they will find anyway they can to be assholes to me. Questioning everything about me. My faith, my friends, my diet, my lifestyle, everything. They get mad when I don't laugh at their gay joke. They get mad when I choose not to eat meat. They get mad when I choose to walk instead of drive somewhere. I've never spoken a word of judgement but they take my lifestyle choices as judgment of them and create strawmen in their heads that I am criticising everything they do. These are not 'good people'. These are people that actively support a self professed aspiring dictator. They take me not eating meat as talking down to them and are willing to retaliate with fascism - this isn't rational decision making. We need to dismantle corporate run media and the role of money in politics. Stop blaming people that are making good decisions for the problems creates by those making bad ones

Has it ever occurred to you that they may be insecure?

True. We should just let them destroy our democracy. Because they're insecure.

Lol what? "Be kinder to the fascists" has been tried already. It's called "appeasement."

Take a guess how that worked out.

If you don't want to be talked down to. Stop acting like you need to be. It's not "liberal" boogymen doing this. It's sane people. And if you behave sane or ask for help, they'll compassionately extend a helping hand. Every time.

But this is the problem with people who victimize themselves. They created the problem themselves and they don't want to solve it because it means undoing what they've done. Or admitting that they were wrong. So they simply double down and nowadays find other insane people who will confirm their reality defying beliefs. Mistaking ignorant confirmation bias for compassion.

You think the solution is for the people who already want equality for all to somehow become even kinder? Being liberal is already the logical consequence of basic kindness. Kindness results in altruism, which results in social awareness and liberal activism.

This conservative assumption that everyone showing altruism must be a false actor is indicative of some significant mental illness.

"You catch more flies with honey than vinegar." I've witnessed this first-hand.

The vast majority of liberals are tribalists just like conservatives. They don't care to help others, just themselves and their tribe.

I'm not going to argue anymore on this, because then I would be here forever.

I have to wonder what your definition of "liberal" is. Because if we're talking about progressives, the entire ideology is based on helping others. Even center-left politicians do things to help others.

They don't care to help others, just themselves and their tribe.

It is clear from this that (1) you don't know any liberals, and (2) you fail at basic logical deductions. All you have to do to know whether liberals are altruistic or not is look at their policies. You'd see helping people all over them... but that would require you to open your eyes.

I'm not going to argue anymore on this, because then I would be here forever.

And this is what's holding you back. You've made a decision to be part of the problem.

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