Texas power plants have no responsibility to provide electricity in emergencies, judges rule

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Texas power plants have no responsibility to provide electricity in emergencies, judges rule
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Almost three years since the deadly Texas blackout of 2021, a panel of judges from the First Court of Appeals in Houston has ruled that big power companies cannot be held liable for failure to provide electricity during the crisis. The reason is Texas’ deregulated energy market.

The decision seems likely to protect the companies from lawsuits filed against them after the blackout. It leaves the families of those who died unsure where next to seek justice.

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This week, Chief Justice Terry Adams issued the unanimous opinion of that panel that “Texas does not currently recognize a legal duty owed by wholesale power generators to retail customers to provide continuous electricity to the electric grid, and ultimately to the retail customers.”

The opinion states that big power generators “are now statutorily precluded by the legislature from having any direct relationship with retail customers of electricity.”

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When you create an account with a utility, aren't you creating a contract with them? What happened to contractual duty?

“We are altering the terms. Pray we do not alter them any further.”

"Well, in the land of the fee, your level of freedom is directly proportional to your wealth, and the corporations have... an ungodly amount of wealth... but you... you're a peasant... you understand?"

I don’t think it works that way in Texas. There’s a layer of energy resellers who customers create an account with. Those resellers buy energy from the main utility companies and offer different plans. So, there’s no contract between consumer and generator.

Ah yes more middlemen with do nothing jobs ment to reduce corporate liability. The American dream.

Dont disparage what they do. They also add to the price so they can profit. Clearly, added value.

It's a separation between power generation and power delivery. We have the same thing in New York. Someone has to own the actual delivery infrastructure, which in NYC is generally this company called ConEdison. They'll also provide the generate power for you, but you have the right to switch to other providers. For instance, I could switch to a provider that generated all power from renewable sources, though it is naturally more expensive.

Maybe it works that way in NYC, but here in Indiana, I get one option for a power company. Power, gas, water, sewer, trash collection, all single option. And no, that single option is not a government one because I live outside city limits. Until they laid fiber in this neighborhood last year, I only had one option for internet too.

I won't pretend to know the regulations in Indiana, but it's also entirely possible that startup costs or market conditions there don't really facilitate additional competitors. Utilities tend to become way less efficient as you get less dense, so I wouldn't be surprised if you don't really get much competition even if there aren't strong regulatory barriers. The market being open doesn't necessarily mean that it's profitable.

Someone has to own the actual delivery infrastructure,

Do they, though? I hear there's this neat thing called "public ownership" that works wonders for basic necessities like utilities. And that way you don't have someone scheming to profit off the things you need to stay alive.

During the Great privatization scam we are promised that the free market would somehow be magically more efficient but it turns out it was a just so they could show profit Hearing in the middle of stuff that had previously been free of it. Worst service and higher prices were universally the result because those profits have to come from somewhere and that'somewhere is you

There are lots of examples of private companies working well as regulated monopolies. The key word is "regulated", though.

I mean, that isn't incompatible with this system at all. Government ownership of the delivery system, which I'd fully agree is a good thing and one of the places where state ownership naturally fits, is still ownership.

The government generally isn't in the energy production business, so either they lock you into a monopoly with an energy producer, or you get to choose one. Either way, it's the same general system.

We had a Internet Wholesaler in our previous residence who wanted to do the retail side as well. They had the monopoly on the estate we were in, so the ACCC forced them to break up.

With multiple retailers, we suddenly had much better customer assistance, but prices stayed the same.

that and how many of their customers can afford (or have the spare time) for a contract lawyer?

Ok, then sue the middlemen for failing to withhold their side of the contract.

They can deal with recouping the costs from their shitty suppliers.

They'll either pressure the suppliers into change, or go out of business handing the liability back to the suppliers.

Wouldn't the energy broker company want to sue the generator then? Honestly they probably have better lawyers than their customers, anyway.

In my experience contracts are one-sided. The big corpo end of the contract basically has no real power over them but they sure can use their contract to fuck you little guy over. All the contract does is allow a corporation to use state power against you really. No contracts that's not between equals never truly be fair unless we were to have a public defender system for civil court

Your contact is to pay for the power they provide. It is a regulated field so if something fails, then it is up to the regulators to cover the costs of they want more redundancy but 100 percent guarantees are not possible. Solar doesn't provide all days and wind can be gone for weeks. Do you think you should be able to sue them for that?

Yes, because they should have energy storage for renewables, such as molten salt, gravity, synthetic methane, and/or electrical batteries, etc