Gaza war protesters shut down Golden Gate Bridge, block traffic in other cities

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Gaza war protesters shut down Golden Gate Bridge, block traffic in other cities
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Mm and how has the average San Franciscan contributed to a war on the other side of the planet?

The same way the average American contributed to black oppression. By being silent observers to your government's actions.

In the same way we all do. Those weapons can't be built without a reliable economy. Interruptions in labor produce ripple effects which disrupt the atrocities of the capitalist class.

Except these morons protest everywhere except where the weapons are made and shipped from. Curious.

Well yeah people tend to get shot when they protest around military bases.

Okay, so why haven't you, as I assume an American, stopped working to disrupt the atrocities of the capitalist class?

It is easy to condemn obvious wrongdoers, but what about the supporting cast of complicitors: business partners, employees, investors, news organizations, and others? Whether we’re aware of it or not, almost all of us have been complicit in the unethical behavior of others and have not always used ethical decision-making skills.

Complicit: How We Enable the Unethical and How to Stop

With a portion of their taxes.

Well, many of them voted for Biden and plan to do it again, for one thing.

As opposed to?

"None of the Above" which... like it or not is a vote against genocide.. not FOR Trump.

It's not the voting populations' fault that the judiciary is dragging it's legs punishing Trump. Americans have ruined their country.

Only one of two people will win. Donald wants Israel to "finish the job." Everyone abstaining or voting third party wll be doing a shocked Pikachu face when this genocide expands to other countries under a nakedly fascist administration.

Voting for one of the three candidates who don't support genocide

I have you tagged as Kremlin shill, so it's no surprise to see you here trying to get Trump elected.

three

Come again now?

Stein, West, De La Cruz

Seriously though, learn a tiny bit of history and political science. Look into the origins of the two-party system we currently have and the history of third parties winning the presidential election.

You should know very well that in a FPTP system, particularly the type the US has, additional political parties do nothing to help democracy. Arguably they make it worse:

  • 30% vote for liberals and hate fascists
  • 30% vote for leftists and hate fascists
  • 40% vote for fascists

60% of voters hate the fascists, but they still win the election. This is exactly how the Nazi party took over a democracy.

You have to play big tent politics in FPTP. We need a ranked choice, parliamentary system before adding parties will improve democracy. And that happens by taking gradual control of a party and pushing it that way. It isn't going to come from a third party entering the fray --

UNLESS, one of the the main two parties fractures away. And we are currently in a dynamic where Republicans are close to doing so. Firmly beating them in November may lead to a total breakdown of the party, and then Greens could attempt to assume their role as the second major party in the US. That's the fastest way we can get to national ranked choice voting.

Oh. Hopefully you're picking candidates with a chance of winning in your state and municipal races. But if not, you could skip the line and throw your ballot directly in the trash.

No I'd rather tell Genocide Joe to fuck off

I am voting for Biden. I sure as heck am not voting for the other guy.

I sure as heck am not voting for genocide. Fortunately, I have options: Stein, West, De La Cruz.

Voting third party gives more power for the former president to win. I am not taking that chance. I think we have a better chance at working with the current administration to intervene positively after the election. If the orange menace gets in he will likely take the Israel/Palestine war to new levels.

If Biden doesn't change course, all the Palestinians will be dead from famine before Trump comes in to office.