I don’t really know what it would take to get this done
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Would require the GOP to no longer exist to get this done.
She could also try to convince Biden to have them assassinated, which would be totally legal.
With the current SCOTUS, it's only an official act if a Republican does it.
I'm not advocating for it, but like, if they are dead they can't really speak up about their opinions. Again, not condoning murder, but just thinking through the logic on this.
I say just keep killing justices till they change it. I am condoning this.
Not a non-zero possibility, considering how often Biden is confusing names now. Just present his name in a brochure that seems to talk about the middle east and needing to assassinate a target, that gets it an automatic human right's pass.
Wait, that's an option?
Ever played Suzerain? There's a timeline where this is possible, but you gotta play it right.
That said, this speech would make a big impact in that game. But it's obviously fictional and based in the beginning of a the Cold War within the Eastern Bloc, so it's more realistic in expected outcomes than the reality of 2024 United States. Maybe they can make a hardcore mode DLC based on those societal and political conditions.
In truth, regardless of camps, all Americans should be livid if they are those that refer to themselves as real Americans—honestly, patriotic conservatives the most, in protection of the constitution. Unfortunately that unity is gone, so the words will get washed away by a torrent of bias before they can be pondered on.
Suzerain
Hadn't heard of this game, but looks interesting. Is it a grand strategy game like EU4 or HOI, but with a narrative? Or am I way off?
It is functionally a well written and presented 'choose your adventure' political drama.
There are elements of randomness and gameplay systems, but it is not really a grand strategy game with a whole extremely complex simulation engine undergirding it, the way Paradox games are.
I would say that it does count as a strategy game in the sense that navigating toward outcomes you want does take a good bit of understanding how power politics works within basically the Cold War era, particularly from the standpoint of a non aligned nation.
Maybe you could say its like the Paradox games, if they stripped most of the numbers mechanics, made them less complex and not the focus, and were left with mainly narrative events and focus trees, but those were done in great detail.
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I played this game basically right when it came out, several years ago, and it may have changed since.
Interesting, thanks for the info.
it is not really a grand strategy game with a whole extremely complex simulation engine undergirding it, the way Paradox games are.
This might actually be a plus for me, for as much as I want to love those games, I always ultimately get bogged down in that shit.
I haven't played in a while, but I have over 100 hours in EU4, with at least a half a dozen of the dlc, and I can say that I still don't truly know how to play those games "properly." The level of detail is simultaneously insane and dumb (sometimes their approximations of real life things are understandably absurd). I love the idea of them though.
I just got a new PC with a little more juice, and picked up Victoria 3 and have been debating if I should start watching tutorial videos or not...
Completely and wildly different genre, but I've been very intrigued so far with Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic as a city builder with a pretty impressive amount of detail. It's unique among the genre as the main goal isn't financial, but more focused on the well-being of your citizens. Lots of public housing, public transport, walking paths... There are two currencies, and if you choose to deal with the West you have to use a separate currency.
I feel like if I'm going to put the time into a complex "simulation" game at this point, it might be that one.
Kind of. The genre is hard to explain. You would like it if you're into grand strat. I've done four playthrough and two DLC,.each time taking on different tactics and stances.
By the president ordering the assassination of every Republican legislator, lobbyist and RNC operative.
We'd need every Democrat and a few Republicans. Since these traitorous justices are what's giving Republicans power, it's pretty unlikely. Still worth trying.
Yeah, you push the issue and get people on record voting to defend blatant corruption. Then you can use it against them in the next election. House Reps run for office every two years. It's really frustrating to watch the Democrats abandon a cause because "it will never pass the House."
That's just to get the articles passed in the house. To get a conviction in the senate you need a 2/3 supermajority. Never happen. But it doesn't hurt to get people on the record as opposed.
And when that fails:
We take to the streets
We take to our representatives
We disrupt everything until we solve this matter.
You best believe there will be an out roar.
There's always a chance, it's just very small. These corrupt justices are the end game for the republican party, the odds of any of them breaking ranks to convict is very low.
That said, it's almost certainly not about conviction, so much as upholding the rule of law and creating political pressure and support for something like packing the court.
The motion will get assigned to a committee, run by Republicans, where it will die. Even if there is a sympathetic Republican on that committee, all House members are up for re-election in November, and voting for this is a sure way to get the MAGAs all up in their grill and would likely lead to that person losing a ton of MAGA support, and likely losing their job.
AOC knows this and is doing this to help Democrats in vulnerable districts, to help turn the House in the next Congress. "Elect us into the majority, and we will actually look into this."
You are arguing that Republicans are, ”To busy keeping their job to do their job”. While that may be true in some cases, I fear that for some of them, breaking the Supreme Court like this was the goal all along.
Would need at least some republican support, since they still hold the majority. So, not holding my breath, they tend to stick together.
No, this is pro forma only. Which doesn't mean it's unimportant because it's about the message. But it will not go anywhere judicially.
None, but what matters is getting voting records so that later this year or in 2026 during House races, they can show who made an attempt to punish the traitors to our democracy, and who is in full support.
Is there any chance this will ever pass?
I don’t really know what it would take to get this done
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Would require the GOP to no longer exist to get this done.
She could also try to convince Biden to have them assassinated, which would be totally legal.
With the current SCOTUS, it's only an official act if a Republican does it.
I'm not advocating for it, but like, if they are dead they can't really speak up about their opinions. Again, not condoning murder, but just thinking through the logic on this.
I say just keep killing justices till they change it. I am condoning this.
Not a non-zero possibility, considering how often Biden is confusing names now. Just present his name in a brochure that seems to talk about the middle east and needing to assassinate a target, that gets it an automatic human right's pass.
Wait, that's an option?
Ever played Suzerain? There's a timeline where this is possible, but you gotta play it right.
That said, this speech would make a big impact in that game. But it's obviously fictional and based in the beginning of a the Cold War within the Eastern Bloc, so it's more realistic in expected outcomes than the reality of 2024 United States. Maybe they can make a hardcore mode DLC based on those societal and political conditions.
In truth, regardless of camps, all Americans should be livid if they are those that refer to themselves as real Americans—honestly, patriotic conservatives the most, in protection of the constitution. Unfortunately that unity is gone, so the words will get washed away by a torrent of bias before they can be pondered on.
Hadn't heard of this game, but looks interesting. Is it a grand strategy game like EU4 or HOI, but with a narrative? Or am I way off?
It is functionally a well written and presented 'choose your adventure' political drama.
There are elements of randomness and gameplay systems, but it is not really a grand strategy game with a whole extremely complex simulation engine undergirding it, the way Paradox games are.
I would say that it does count as a strategy game in the sense that navigating toward outcomes you want does take a good bit of understanding how power politics works within basically the Cold War era, particularly from the standpoint of a non aligned nation.
Maybe you could say its like the Paradox games, if they stripped most of the numbers mechanics, made them less complex and not the focus, and were left with mainly narrative events and focus trees, but those were done in great detail.
Note
I played this game basically right when it came out, several years ago, and it may have changed since.
Interesting, thanks for the info.
This might actually be a plus for me, for as much as I want to love those games, I always ultimately get bogged down in that shit.
I haven't played in a while, but I have over 100 hours in EU4, with at least a half a dozen of the dlc, and I can say that I still don't truly know how to play those games "properly." The level of detail is simultaneously insane and dumb (sometimes their approximations of real life things are understandably absurd). I love the idea of them though.
I just got a new PC with a little more juice, and picked up Victoria 3 and have been debating if I should start watching tutorial videos or not...
Completely and wildly different genre, but I've been very intrigued so far with Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic as a city builder with a pretty impressive amount of detail. It's unique among the genre as the main goal isn't financial, but more focused on the well-being of your citizens. Lots of public housing, public transport, walking paths... There are two currencies, and if you choose to deal with the West you have to use a separate currency.
I feel like if I'm going to put the time into a complex "simulation" game at this point, it might be that one.
Kind of. The genre is hard to explain. You would like it if you're into grand strat. I've done four playthrough and two DLC,.each time taking on different tactics and stances.
By the president ordering the assassination of every Republican legislator, lobbyist and RNC operative.
We'd need every Democrat and a few Republicans. Since these traitorous justices are what's giving Republicans power, it's pretty unlikely. Still worth trying.
Yeah, you push the issue and get people on record voting to defend blatant corruption. Then you can use it against them in the next election. House Reps run for office every two years. It's really frustrating to watch the Democrats abandon a cause because "it will never pass the House."
That's just to get the articles passed in the house. To get a conviction in the senate you need a 2/3 supermajority. Never happen. But it doesn't hurt to get people on the record as opposed.
And when that fails:
We take to the streets We take to our representatives We disrupt everything until we solve this matter.
You best believe there will be an out roar.
There's always a chance, it's just very small. These corrupt justices are the end game for the republican party, the odds of any of them breaking ranks to convict is very low.
That said, it's almost certainly not about conviction, so much as upholding the rule of law and creating political pressure and support for something like packing the court.
The motion will get assigned to a committee, run by Republicans, where it will die. Even if there is a sympathetic Republican on that committee, all House members are up for re-election in November, and voting for this is a sure way to get the MAGAs all up in their grill and would likely lead to that person losing a ton of MAGA support, and likely losing their job.
AOC knows this and is doing this to help Democrats in vulnerable districts, to help turn the House in the next Congress. "Elect us into the majority, and we will actually look into this."
You are arguing that Republicans are, ”To busy keeping their job to do their job”. While that may be true in some cases, I fear that for some of them, breaking the Supreme Court like this was the goal all along.
Would need at least some republican support, since they still hold the majority. So, not holding my breath, they tend to stick together.
No, this is pro forma only. Which doesn't mean it's unimportant because it's about the message. But it will not go anywhere judicially.
None, but what matters is getting voting records so that later this year or in 2026 during House races, they can show who made an attempt to punish the traitors to our democracy, and who is in full support.