Wow, I didn't realize that they were about the same age. I just assumed that Clinton, who was last elected president twenty-eight years ago, was way older.
Prepare yourself:
Clinton, Trump and Bush Jr were all born in the “summer” of 1946.
Since 1992, 32 years ago, there has been a presidential candidate from the summer of 1946 for 7 elections (trump 3 times now) or 28 years worth.
Additionally, H Clinton was the “fall” of 1947, Romney the “spring” of 1947, Gore the “spring” of 1948.
Obama, McCain, Kerry and Biden are the only exceptions to the core Boomer generation of a 2 year window dominating presidential elections for ~35yrs.
With Biden and Kerry kinda being older boomers, born in ~1942/3 and Obama a young boomer at ~1960. Harris and Walz (and Vance too) mark a generational step change to X-gen and millennials
Can I ask why the seasons are in quotes? No shade, it’s good information (though Obama is still a core boomer, and Harris and Walz are on the cusp- 1946-64 is the range in the US), just wondering
Not everyone lives in the northern hemisphere, or call autumn "fall", or, AFAICT, use the seasons over specific months as much as the US.
the quotes don’t really help with any of that though. people can figure it out from context.
The southern hemisphere is just a bunch of penguins and seals. Who cares.
The Aussies would be mad if their internet wasnt dogshit.
Ouch. That's a burn.
Better go to the hospital for a free fix.
Our national network yes, but we don't have the bullshit locked down devices (paired with a certain sim) you have in the land of the free, we can buy whatever we like and it magically works.
We can do that too, its just a thing with the phone service providers. I can go and buy a brand new unlocked phone at best buy and not even have to think about locks. Also there are programs for cracking those devices.
I think it is fair to ascribe northern seasons to people who have held a job with the de facto requires you to be born on the northern hemisphere.
Just to be pedantic:
You don’t have to be born in the US to be president, you just have to be born with US citizenship, but if one or both of your parents are citizens, you are too from birth.
The only US presidents who weren't officially born in the US were all born in the 13 English colonies that would eventually make up the US. It is still debated if someone born outside the US to American parents is eligible for the president. Birther scandals go all the way back to Chester Arthur, who was first purported to be born in his father's homeland of Ireland, and then Lower Canada, where his parents first met. Those accusations never really took root and were disproven, but there has never been a Supreme Court ruling to determine what "natural born" citizen actually means.
Given the current supreme court, I'd wager it depends on the party affiliation of the candidate.
No way, it also depends on tax deductible donations to your local Supreme Court justice
And Trump technically wasn’t “born.” He hatched from a goose egg like all goose-stepping fascist dipshits.
Yea but it was still a natural pipping
I figured there was a reason, thanks.
All good!
If it helps, I don't live in the Northern Hempisphere, so I had to think a bit each time.
You're talking about American presidential candidates?
Good eye!
Vacuum cleaner brands put out by " Hoover".
and Harris and Walz are on the cusp- 1946-64 is the range in the US)
Well, I think that's missing the forest for the trees. If people at the older edge of cusp have been dominant, then shifting to the younger edge, ~15-20 years younger, is still a step change.
Obama kinda marked the beginning of it, but is best viewed as an aberration. His opponents were silent gen (McCain) and old-boomer (Romney, 1947). And the next two elections after him were, in birth years, '46 v '47, '42 v '46. IE, over 6 candidates in 4 elections, Obama was the only one not born before 1948. Both Harris and Walz being born in '64 feels like a step change (where apart from Palin, I don't think VPs were ever typically much younger)
Harris and Walz aren't Millennials by any stretch. Harris is 59, Walz is 60. Spring chickens compared to Biden and Trump, but still 20 years removed from the oldest Millennial cohorts.
I think they were putting them in gen x and Vance in millennial.
I think you missed the point. Not that they are millennial but that it's the first time millennial are seeing someone born from a different time period.
Clinton was the young charming candidate kind of like Obama
I remember, although back then I thought 50 was old...
Trump, Dubya, and Bubba were all born in 1946
June 14; July 6; & Aug 19, respectively
One does not get more Boomer than that. 9 months after the war ended. Almost exactly.
They were also best buddies when Clinton was president.
Yeah, Trump was an NYC Democrat. I thought it was remarkable that he managed to legitimize himself to Republican voters.
I think it's nothing. They are a frustrated disoriented group. They'd take anyone.
Maybe so are Dem voters who are excited about Harris, while a few years ago she was rather unpopular.
I've never set foot in the new world, but maybe people should be excited about perspectives of a new major party coming to existence, since GOP is broken. While Harris is just better than Trump, no less and no more.
If the GOP continue on the path they're on eventually (hopefully) the Dems can win in a landslide and open up for another party to beat them. Right now we are still stuck with the two because potentially splitting the Dems is too much of a risk
Wow, I didn't realize that they were about the same age. I just assumed that Clinton, who was last elected president twenty-eight years ago, was way older.
Prepare yourself:
Clinton, Trump and Bush Jr were all born in the “summer” of 1946.
Since 1992, 32 years ago, there has been a presidential candidate from the summer of 1946 for 7 elections (trump 3 times now) or 28 years worth.
Additionally, H Clinton was the “fall” of 1947, Romney the “spring” of 1947, Gore the “spring” of 1948.
Obama, McCain, Kerry and Biden are the only exceptions to the core Boomer generation of a 2 year window dominating presidential elections for ~35yrs.
With Biden and Kerry kinda being older boomers, born in ~1942/3 and Obama a young boomer at ~1960. Harris and Walz (and Vance too) mark a generational step change to X-gen and millennials
Can I ask why the seasons are in quotes? No shade, it’s good information (though Obama is still a core boomer, and Harris and Walz are on the cusp- 1946-64 is the range in the US), just wondering
Not everyone lives in the northern hemisphere, or call autumn "fall", or, AFAICT, use the seasons over specific months as much as the US.
the quotes don’t really help with any of that though. people can figure it out from context.
The southern hemisphere is just a bunch of penguins and seals. Who cares.
The Aussies would be mad if their internet wasnt dogshit.
Ouch. That's a burn.
Better go to the hospital for a free fix.
Our national network yes, but we don't have the bullshit locked down devices (paired with a certain sim) you have in the land of the free, we can buy whatever we like and it magically works.
We can do that too, its just a thing with the phone service providers. I can go and buy a brand new unlocked phone at best buy and not even have to think about locks. Also there are programs for cracking those devices.
I think it is fair to ascribe northern seasons to people who have held a job with the de facto requires you to be born on the northern hemisphere.
Just to be pedantic:
You don’t have to be born in the US to be president, you just have to be born with US citizenship, but if one or both of your parents are citizens, you are too from birth.
The only US presidents who weren't officially born in the US were all born in the 13 English colonies that would eventually make up the US. It is still debated if someone born outside the US to American parents is eligible for the president. Birther scandals go all the way back to Chester Arthur, who was first purported to be born in his father's homeland of Ireland, and then Lower Canada, where his parents first met. Those accusations never really took root and were disproven, but there has never been a Supreme Court ruling to determine what "natural born" citizen actually means.
Given the current supreme court, I'd wager it depends on the party affiliation of the candidate.
No way, it also depends on tax deductible donations to your local Supreme Court justice
And Trump technically wasn’t “born.” He hatched from a goose egg like all goose-stepping fascist dipshits.
Yea but it was still a natural pipping
I figured there was a reason, thanks.
All good!
If it helps, I don't live in the Northern Hempisphere, so I had to think a bit each time.
You're talking about American presidential candidates?
Good eye!
Vacuum cleaner brands put out by " Hoover".
Well, I think that's missing the forest for the trees. If people at the older edge of cusp have been dominant, then shifting to the younger edge, ~15-20 years younger, is still a step change.
Obama kinda marked the beginning of it, but is best viewed as an aberration. His opponents were silent gen (McCain) and old-boomer (Romney, 1947). And the next two elections after him were, in birth years, '46 v '47, '42 v '46. IE, over 6 candidates in 4 elections, Obama was the only one not born before 1948. Both Harris and Walz being born in '64 feels like a step change (where apart from Palin, I don't think VPs were ever typically much younger)
Harris and Walz aren't Millennials by any stretch. Harris is 59, Walz is 60. Spring chickens compared to Biden and Trump, but still 20 years removed from the oldest Millennial cohorts.
I think they were putting them in gen x and Vance in millennial.
I think you missed the point. Not that they are millennial but that it's the first time millennial are seeing someone born from a different time period.
Clinton was the young charming candidate kind of like Obama
I remember, although back then I thought 50 was old...
Trump, Dubya, and Bubba were all born in 1946
June 14; July 6; & Aug 19, respectively
One does not get more Boomer than that. 9 months after the war ended. Almost exactly.
They were also best buddies when Clinton was president.
Yeah, Trump was an NYC Democrat. I thought it was remarkable that he managed to legitimize himself to Republican voters.
I think it's nothing. They are a frustrated disoriented group. They'd take anyone.
Maybe so are Dem voters who are excited about Harris, while a few years ago she was rather unpopular.
I've never set foot in the new world, but maybe people should be excited about perspectives of a new major party coming to existence, since GOP is broken. While Harris is just better than Trump, no less and no more.
If the GOP continue on the path they're on eventually (hopefully) the Dems can win in a landslide and open up for another party to beat them. Right now we are still stuck with the two because potentially splitting the Dems is too much of a risk