Conservative asked me my thoughts on a situation if a guy who says he's trans walks into a womens restroom but is lying and isn't actually trans
My thoughts is that it's a simple situation really. If they're harassing or assaulting people, the women will call the cops or something, simple situation and get the guy arrested. If he's not doing anything, it's nothing harmful. Apparently that's not a solid enough answer. What should I have said?
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Is there a magical barrier that keeps men who don't say they're trans from entering women's bathrooms?
A fictitious rapist can only enter women's bathrooms for raping purposes if they loudly declare that they are trans.
Oh I see, it's like bankruptcy.
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"See I'm trans. You have to let me in here to rape people."
It's quite interesting to see them make this argument while also claiming that gun control laws can't possibly work because criminals won't abide by them.
I guess we need to allow everyone to use any washroom because we need a good man in the women's washroom to be around to save the women from a bad man in the women's washroom
Careful, conservatives have historically been against desegregating spaces.
Not if it means white men can go wherever they want!
Gun control laws don't stop bad actors from acting badly. And neither will restroom laws.
Yeah, this is probably the right way to go. There's actually no bathroom police, for most people. It's an issue in the first place because when someone is trans people will deputise themselves just to harass them.
The social contract, and the knowledge that it isn't acceptable and any women inside would likely scream and the man would be perceived as an attempted rapist and would face consequences.
In my experience what happens is you look at each other confusedly for a moment, wondering who is in the wrong restroom. Then you realise there are no urinals so it's probably the women's restroom. Then the man leaves a bit embarrassed. Source: Happened to me at least twice (once the signs were really unclear).
Happened to me once as the woman. Poor guy was so embarrassed and apologetic.
So, no. I don't think a rapist cares much if they're perceived as a rapist. And a lot of (maybe most?) rapists know that they probably won't be convicted even if caught.
None of those things prevented rapists from entering bathrooms before.
So the woman won't scream if a fake trans rapist starts raping them? The justice system won't prosecute an accused fake trans rapist because there's a newer social contract?