Netanyahu and Putin are both waiting for Trump
Netanyahu reportedly met this month with three foreign policy envoys working with former president and current presidential candidate Donald Trump — who could yet win the election despite being convicted Thursday on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in his New York state hush money case.
Netanyahu, who benefited immensely from Trump’s first term, is arguably hoping for a similar dividend in the event of a second. In the interim, he has openly rejected the Biden administration’s hopes for the Palestinian Authority to take the lead in the postwar administration of Gaza, and he and his allies have shown no interest in even engaging in the White House on reviving pathways for a Palestinian state. And contrary to the Biden administration’s wishes, Netanyahu may soon act on a Republican invitation to address a joint session of Congress.
It’s not just Netanyahu who is waiting for Trump. The evidence is more clear that Russian President Vladimir Putin is holding out for a Trump victory, which would probably help the Kremlin consolidate its illegal conquests of Ukrainian territory. My colleagues reported last month that Trump and his inner circle have outlined the terms of a potential settlement between Moscow and Kyiv that they would attempt to usher in if in power. “Trump’s proposal consists of pushing Ukraine to cede Crimea and the Donbas border region to Russia, according to people who discussed it with Trump or his advisers and spoke on the condition of anonymity because those conversations were confidential,” they reported.
Such a move would fracture the transatlantic coalition built up in support of Ukraine’s resistance to Russian invasion. It would cement the Republican turn away from Europe’s security at a time when Western resolve around Ukraine is flagging. And it would be yet another sign of Trump’s conspicuous affection the strongman in the Kremlin.
The world is waiting for all three to die.
War criminals of a feather need to stick together.
Trump isn't really a war criminal yet. Although selling out our spies and operatives to Russia was a dick move.
Does it count that his follower flew a confederate flag in the Capitol?
He's was a US president, war criminal is part of the job description
Weird. Mention putin and all his employees show up in the comments
Hint; They cosplay as leftists
Left, right... These are meaningless labels when progressives / social democrats / libertarians have to join forces against authoritarian trash of any kind.
Anarchists too!
Weird. If I worked for the Internet Research Agency, this is what I’d say to sow distrust and division.
If I clicked on your name and read your post history, I’d hope you’re getting paid to post that consistently. If not you’re getting screwed by your ideology.
That’s not how ideology works. And judging by that statement, you lack one, if you fear getting “screwed” by your ideology.
I fear that both situations will get uglier after the US election, regardless of who wins. If Trump wins, Biden will try to force things to a definitive conclusion before he leaves office, and if Biden wins, Putin and Netanyahu will give up on trying not to provoke the US in hope of working with Trump again.
He'll only have two months. What do you suppose he could do in two months that can resolve this conflict which has taken years?
Bibi would for sure be elated for Trump presidency 2 because he’d get not only zero pushback but probably a sharp escalation in military aid, but I don’t think he’s waiting for shit. Vladi probably needs Trump to destroy NATO from within and then start pushing further into Eastern Europe.
That’s not necessarily true for Bibi, and to be clear I’m not doing a ‘genocide joe’ thing, but if something wild happens like Trump stroking out before the election I think he’ll actually try to finish his war crimes before the election is over.
I think he will just keep going no matter who is in charge. Exterminating a population of millions is hard and takes unrelenting effort. People are resourceful and go to great lengths not to die.
That’s more or less what I was trying to get across
Can’t the administration deny Netanyahu a visa/entry?
Like, yes there will be political cost to this, but letting him grandstand propaganda in the house is also going to cost politically. Which would be worse? Especially when there’s an ICJ arrest warrant potentially dropping soon - “we want to avoid a potential international incident regarding the Israeli PM” plays better imo than headlines like “King Bibi lauded by Congress, garnering more US support and friendship” whilst the MAGAs get/give handshake photo opportunities
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The bombardment triggered a blaze that swept through parts of a makeshift tent camp in the environs of Rafah, the territory’s southernmost city, killing at least 45 Palestinians and injuring hundreds more.
Images of charred bodies and screaming children proliferated in the aftermath, adding to the already considerable pressure on President Biden to change course in its staunch support for Israel’s campaign.
Tzachi Hanegbi, national security adviser to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, told local radio this week that his government expected to wage its operations in Gaza for “at least another seven months.” He said the extended mission would be “to fortify our achievement and what we define as the destruction of the governmental and military capabilities” of Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups in the territory.
Netanyahu reportedly met this month with three foreign policy envoys working with former president and current presidential candidate Donald Trump — who could yet win the election despite being convicted Thursday on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in his New York state hush money case.
“In his eight years as the GOP’s standard-bearer, Trump has led a stark shift in the party’s prevailing orientation to become more skeptical of foreign intervention such as military aid to Ukraine,” my colleagues wrote.
My colleagues reported this week about growing tensions between Kyiv and officials in the Biden administration, with Ukraine pushing its Western allies to loosen rules over the usage of some of their weaponry on targets on Russian soil.
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I wonder if Linkerbaan has seen this yet. And what his reaction is.
Then why is Biden helping them?
Netanyahu pretty obviously is not being held back by Joe "give them multiple billions in genocide aid" Biden.
Putin, yeah, probably.
I'm against Trump but the anti-Israel sentiment on lemmy is... kind of yikes.
Wow, a 1 day old account supporting Israel. What a surprise.
Yesterday anti-Zionist, today pro-Israel, stance all over the place. A shitposter?
I have Jewish friends living in Israel. They've been living under constant threat, being bombed for decades. If not for the missile defense, you'd see millions dead by now. But yeah, keep talking that Jews are just a bunch of crazy genocidal people, murdering innocent civilians for no reason. Totally not a propaganda.
I wonder why they feel threatened? Could it be because the Israeli state has been murdering and diaplacing their neighbors that they feel ethnically superior to for the last century?
I don't know why this downvote as it's pretty much correct much of their neighbors hates Israelis for just being Jewish. And the middle east is infamous for people's lack of consideration for civilian casualties. There's not one single middle east country worthy of support.
Their neighbours don’t hate them for being Jewish, they hate them for stealing their homes, routinely bombing them and other apartheid actions.
Many Jewish people will stand up against Israel for Palestine. Jewish Voices for Labour is such one group in the UK.
Norman Finkelstein is arguably the most educated person on the issue and also Jewish.
People don’t hate Jews, they hate terrorists, of which many are Israeli.
I'm referring to countries outside Palestine areas.
Again. People don’t hate them for being Jewish. They hate them for their actions.
This is Middle East we are talking about. I honestly doubt that they care about war crimes when they participate in them themselves.
Im yet to see any evidence that the whole of the Middle East hates Jews.
The same in that not all Israelis hate Palestinians, after all there are quite large protests in Israel in solidarity with Palestine.
It's the easiest explanation. The expulsion of jewish people in the past. The observation that Islamic states endorse war crimes. Which means yes, the surrounding nations do hate "the joos" irrespective of whether Israel committed war crimes (which a good case can be made with hostages shooting and WCK bombings, etc.).
The expulsion of Jewish people in the past?
What about the expulsion of Palestinian people over the last several decades to this very day?
Israel is actively engaging in war crimes right now. There isn’t a case for it. It’s online for the whole world to see.
Lebanon are fighting the good fight right now.
How do you war crimes? How come when an Islamic country defends itself it’s not allowed but for western countries, sure that’s different. Iraq, Afghanistan, Loas, Vietnam, the list if endless.
Why are leading Jewish scholars against Zionism, why are they against the actions of the Israeli state. Why is Ireland, and many other counties starting to turn on Israel. It’s because they are the bad guys.
As for any terrorism. If you come and wipe out my whole family for no reason, then I’m going to come and try to murder you too. Fuck anybody that will still 8 months later try and defend Israel. Fuck the US, fuck my own (UK) government and fuck you for supporting the murdering of innocent people at an unprecedented level.
Morocco 1948: 265,000 Morocco 2007: 2,000
Algeria 1948: 140,000 Algeria 2007: est. 50
Tunisia 1948: 105,000 Tunisia 2007: 1,700
Libya 1948: 38,000 Libya 2007: 0
Egypt 1948: 75,000 Egypt 2007: 20
Lebanon 1948: 24,000 Lebanon 2007: 100
Syria 1948: 30,000 Syria 2007: 100
Iraq 1948: 150,000 Iraq 2007: 10
Could go on, but there is definitely expulsion of Jewish people in the past. Which is pretty strong evidence Middle East hates Jewish people.
Two wrongs don't make a correct.
Guess you miss good case. I'm actually on the side that yes, they did committed major war crimes.
First of all, Hezbollah isn't even supported there. Second of all, Hezbollah isn't exactly what you should be endorsing.
Stupid question. But, we see things like children under strapped vest with a bomb under it. We see rapes being used as a tools. That's the modus operandi of the Middle East of the whole.
That's pretty much how the Middle East operates. Even without Jewish people, they're still going to come at each other throats.
So, with that being said, no, Middle East don't care about Israels' war crimes. They're proud of those things. They simply hate Israel because of well, they're Jewish.
Why are you defending Middle East? I should have to ask that question.
Opposing a genocidal apartheid ethnostate is yikes?
I am against the people doing the killing.
Can you explain why you find the anti-israel sentiment to be problematic?
Being against Israel in context of government is one thing, and being anti-semitic is another thing. Sure, there are people against Jewish people in of by themselves, but they shouldn't be mixed with people that do not support the current Israel government. Almost no one rates countries by the non-government inhabitants of said country anyway, they all get rated based on their government.
Israel has absolutely nothing to do with racism against jews
Which is why I pointed that there are two different things. Being against Israel doesn't have to do with being against Jewish people, that I agree. And that's why I pointed that no one rates countries by the non-government entities. Hell, I will admit to being pro-Israelis (w/ a i) while being against Israel (the government), and likewise, I'll say the same thing about being pro-palestianians while being against Palestine government.
Cannot believe the dislike for people who brag about how much they love genocide
Could their attempt at gaslighting be any more blatant, the claims of Biden wanting peace and Palestinian authority are BS
I'm not sure how this is gas lighting.
Here's the Wikipedia article so we can make sure we're using the same vocabulary.
Telling us that Biden is attempting peace, while simultaneously sending weapons and money is a form of gaslighting. Telling us we are not struggling financially because the economy is doing so great, though we are experiencing the exact opposite is a form of gaslighting.
Per your Wiki link:
According to Merriam Webster:
You not only seem to be misunderstanding gas lighting still but also the messaging around the economy and the response to the Gaza invasion.
Fun fact: the economy can be doing great and poor people can still exist. Let that doozy sink in.
Another neat one: the Biden administration can want peace in Israel but not be willing to destroy the relationship we have with that country, alienate a huge portion of Biden voter, or destroy the political capital he has in order to get peace.
Sure jan.
Bazinga, pwnd another lib!
Gaslighting about gaslighting; bold choice.
Looks like you didn't read the definition of gas lighting either. Once again you're making broad claims on a gross misunderstanding of the facts.
I’ve seen the movie based on the play. Smh
Netanyahu is very happy with Biden. Biden keeps sending him bombs to drop on Palestinian kids.
He clearly be happier with Trump though
says who? Clearly Biden has no problem with mass-murder.
Anyone with a brain stem.
Biden is sending the bombs Netanyahu is using to kill Palestinian kids.
Thinking past the next move clearly isn’t your strong point. You’re a fool if you think Trump will be better. The guy who literally hates Muslims and wanted to ban any from coming into the US. He’ll cheer on as Netanyahu wipes out and reclaims Gaza.
Nobody expects Trump to be better. But Biden is a mass murderer and genocide supporter, which is already as bad as it gets.