will twitter last or will it die?

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is twitter gonna die like tumblr did.?

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Same as tumblr, still around, but largely irrelevant.

This seems like the correct answer, but Twitter has (had?) more clout than tumblr did. For example, wasn't Trump announcing things straight to twitter? Tumblr never had that kind of usage.

Trump turned Twitter into an official channel for correspondence for a short time.

That's what I thought.. I never really paid enough attention though. What a weird time to be alive.

My bets is that Yahoo will buy it for $1B, and then sell it for $3M.

The Twitter will rename to Phoenix and take off again. After yahoo sells it of course.

I'm leaning towards die. It would have lasted longer as Twitter. But as X? Old politicians will just get confused where their blue bird app went.

Technically in name it's gone. The remnants of it carry on. Hopefully the public figures and creators migrate to a different platform already because hearing less about Musk would be better for everybody.

Just curious what Musk did wrong. Seems like ever since he said there would be an organized movement against him, what he's said has come true. Makes the hate feel manufactured by a movement.

I shouldn't feed the trolls...

I suppose the better question is, what did he do right?

  • Taunted Twitter CEO, culminating in what constituted a valid offer to purchase at a very inflated price
  • Tried to back out of his legally made offer
  • Fired the vast majority of staff that knew how to run the site
  • Fired all of the staff in charge of ethics
  • Stopped paying rent and other bills, despite having used the location/services
  • Demanded employees devote their non-sleeping lives to the company
  • Ignored all his other companies, from which he continues to draw paychecks (ok, maybe ignoring them is for their best interest)
  • Failed to pay promised severance
  • Change algorithm to promote his voice above all other
  • Rebrand off of one of the most recognizable names and logos in the world

And these are the ones just off the top of my head.

Examples?

Idk he posted about 2 or so years ago saying he was about to he attacked by the left and ever since then its been happening.

Or you know, people just began to learn about all the shitty stuff he’s done. For example, baselessly accusing a rescue diver of being a pedophile for having the gall to tell him they didn’t need his help on a rescue. Guy’s a prick

The dudes definitely a bit extra, but he's pushing the human race in so many ways, I'm willing to give him a pass.

You can appreciate the good things SpaceX is doing without waving away all the shitty anti-labor bs that Elon does. I certainly do

It's interesting, right? Announce you're about to be attacked by the left, then take a hard right turn and spout conservative bullshit. What a soothsayer!

"attacked" = being called out for shitty behaviour. If he can't handle that that's no one else's issue but his.

I personally hope it will die more than Tumblr did. More like Myspace. But that doesn't seem likely. In fact, the Facebook case seems closer to it's situation: Biggest social network of the world at one point, struggling simultaneously with scandals, legal issues and new competition; slowly losing it's hegemony but remaining relevant in some places...

Ehm? What twitter? Twitter is dead, long live X.

(which I guess will die a horribly slow and quiet death)

I think it will last... Until big companies doesn't use it anymore.

Edit:

I forgot to explain why.

Many big companies uses Twitter to announce things, like new products, updates, etc.

I think when they all stop announcing on Twitter, or even change to another platform to continue their announcement (for example, some of I used to follow have been moved Mastodon), these users will think that there're no reason to use Twitter anymore, then Twitter would less known, and less users use it afterwards.

Which companies are on Mastodon?

For me, afaik, a local press company I followed a while moved to Mastodon last year, i think that's counts. Rest of them are YouTubers, OSS devs and individual users, etc.

I think Microsoft is on Mastodon too.

Edit: Oops, that's dotnet from MS, it is official account though

It'll slowly fizzle away, becoming more and more irrelevant.

btw tumblr isn't dead either.

It will last, because it's the place where certain political force will stay.

And the opposition will go there just to see what "they" are doing and possibly taunt and insult them.

Well, Elon's vision is to turn it into an American "wechat" that has everything a user needs. Sort of like a return to dailup AOL days where you opened up one program for accessing the internet at large. It had chat, web browser, music, etc.

That's his vision. He's going to try and move in that direction, and that's partly the reason for the name change. While definitely ambitious, is it realistic? I don't know. It could be a huge failure, staining Elon's otherwise good track record.

For example with SpaceX he managed to reduce the cost of sending satellites by an absurd amount. From $30,000 per pound of material shot up into space, it went down to $1,200.

If he can do half of what he did with SpaceX at "X" then maybe twitter/x has a chance of not only remaining relevant but becoming something bigger.

However my personal opinion is that he is making poor decision after poor decision and unless he has a 4d chess strategy I'm not seeing it's not going well for him. I'm withholding total judgement for now just to see what he's going to do but honestly it's not looking good.

I never really got how, if the American wechat was his goal, why did he need Twitter at all? They're quite different. Just start x.whatever, right?

I guess if he bankrolls it long enough eventually it'll get to be something neat but it definitely feels to me like everything he's done recently is being done in greed, to push twitter blue on everyone, no matter how ridiculous the choices seem up front. Plus putting a bunch of the employees out of work and then memeing about it on twitter rubs me the wrong way.