No no, once the space shuttle is in space, everything goes around it. It's stationary.
(holds paper, marks 2 holes. folds it to touch holes (giggity), punches pencil through it)
see?
I was thinking more Planet Express Ship and not Event Horizon, but good enough.
wormhole explanation scene #283
Nope. Definitely not high enough to understand this.
*grabs the spice melange*
Okay... continue
To be fair, if someone believes in a flat earth, they probably also believe in an infinite atmosphere….
Ah yes, bullshit assymetry principle.
Humans can't possibly refute and explain away the position of all the absolute stupid shit that other humans spew out of their mouths like unadulterated garbage.
the problem seems to be..
we can't seem to fix stupid.
or it's just too profitable of a system to let die.
The problem is that stupid is an individual attribute. Natural selection doesn’t seem to care about it in the short term.
We, unfortunately, aren't subject to natural selection anymore. We have been left to our own stupidity
Good luck explaining infinite atmosphere would mean infinite gravity and we'd be crushed into a black hole.
But yeah, sure. Earth is the flat object in the observable universe and NASA totally has the power and budget to make possible test you can do to prove otherwise wrong.
They believe in a dome. Flat Earthers are almost all creationists dressing up as independent thinkers.
Shit, I've seen a manhole cover go faster than that, doing back flips the whole time.
You saw it? Cause I read about it, but iirc they didn't videos. I could be wrong on the video thing, and obvs people where there to see it. But... where you one of the people there to see it?
Iirc the "videos" got like 2 frames of the manhole cover because of how fast it was flying
1 frame. That's all they got.
Well, they got the frame before it where it was still stationary on the ground.
I think it's just one frame actually, making it impossible to calculate the speed very accurately, so we only have upper and lower bounds.
Although I've got used to converting feet to meters quickly in my head, I simply can't convert miles to kilometers easily
And here we can see an example of resistance. You see? When the people do not resist, the burgeroisie can do backflips as fast as they want. But when there is resistance, not so easy, eh?
Wait, dumb question. In a vacuum can I go as fast as I want. Like as long as acceleration is cool. Is there technically no downside to increasing speed. Just like we're technically on a planet spinning fast. If I was in a ship in a total vaccumu and it accelerated at a pace that I could handle, could that ship go faster and faster like a bajillion km a sec and I would just be like sitting there enjoying the ride.
From your perspective, eventually things don't move faster by a noticeable amount, but the length of objects starts to shorten, so you can pass much more stuff at a slightly faster speed. You will never see anything move faster than light, it just shortens itself into a 2d object with 0 depth as it approaches the speed of light.
So not a bajillion km a sec, just 300,000 km/sec
But then there is no limit to how fast we could move? Like there is no speed our heads would explode. There's no side effect of speed I guess is what I'm asking. Like 2x speed of light would be no different to us then 5km/hr. Sounds like the only thing would be stuff external to us like the length getting shorter. I get in atmosphere we'd be shredded. But technically we can just go.
Yes, movement is undetectable unless you have something to track your movement against. In fact, there's no way to define "staying still" that's true for everyone in the universe.
You can only feel acceleration, not constant speed movement.
2x the speed of light is impossible. As things move faster, time slows down so they can't make as big of a change to their movement speed using the same amount of energy. Instead, lengths contract so your destination doesn't appear to be as far as it would have been at the start of your journey.
Awesome thanks for all the information.
Here is my take away, speed is not real. Its a concept created by Big Relativity.
Just mindblowing to me that speed does have no effect on us under certain conditions. Like learning that pregnancy can work in zero G. As if we are star people not just Merpeople from the ocean.
Yeah I'd suggest looking at frames of reference and how time dilation keeps the speed of light constant or in other words special relativity.
Technically, you can do this in the air too. The air just needs to be moving at the same speed you are.
It probably can since there is very little friction up there
Orbital.
Dafuq’s a speeding bullet???
A bullet that is not at rest relative to the point where an external force has acted upon it.
Well it doesn’t anymore
No no, once the space shuttle is in space, everything goes around it. It's stationary.
(holds paper, marks 2 holes. folds it to touch holes (giggity), punches pencil through it)
see?
I was thinking more Planet Express Ship and not Event Horizon, but good enough.
wormhole explanation scene #283
Nope. Definitely not high enough to understand this.
*grabs the spice melange*
Okay... continue
To be fair, if someone believes in a flat earth, they probably also believe in an infinite atmosphere….
Ah yes, bullshit assymetry principle.
Humans can't possibly refute and explain away the position of all the absolute stupid shit that other humans spew out of their mouths like unadulterated garbage.
the problem seems to be..
we can't seem to fix stupid.
or it's just too profitable of a system to let die.
The problem is that stupid is an individual attribute. Natural selection doesn’t seem to care about it in the short term.
We, unfortunately, aren't subject to natural selection anymore. We have been left to our own stupidity
Good luck explaining infinite atmosphere would mean infinite gravity and we'd be crushed into a black hole.
But yeah, sure. Earth is the flat object in the observable universe and NASA totally has the power and budget to make possible test you can do to prove otherwise wrong.
They believe in a dome. Flat Earthers are almost all creationists dressing up as independent thinkers.
They believe in the cosmology described in Genesis: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_near_eastern_cosmology
Shit, I've seen a manhole cover go faster than that, doing back flips the whole time.
You saw it? Cause I read about it, but iirc they didn't videos. I could be wrong on the video thing, and obvs people where there to see it. But... where you one of the people there to see it?
Iirc the "videos" got like 2 frames of the manhole cover because of how fast it was flying
1 frame. That's all they got.
Well, they got the frame before it where it was still stationary on the ground.
I think it's just one frame actually, making it impossible to calculate the speed very accurately, so we only have upper and lower bounds.
Reading this legend never gets old. 😂
same meme with rational units:
speed stats source: https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/InnaSokolyanskaya1.shtml
Although I've got used to converting feet to meters quickly in my head, I simply can't convert miles to kilometers easily
And here we can see an example of resistance. You see? When the people do not resist, the burgeroisie can do backflips as fast as they want. But when there is resistance, not so easy, eh?
Wait, dumb question. In a vacuum can I go as fast as I want. Like as long as acceleration is cool. Is there technically no downside to increasing speed. Just like we're technically on a planet spinning fast. If I was in a ship in a total vaccumu and it accelerated at a pace that I could handle, could that ship go faster and faster like a bajillion km a sec and I would just be like sitting there enjoying the ride.
From your perspective, eventually things don't move faster by a noticeable amount, but the length of objects starts to shorten, so you can pass much more stuff at a slightly faster speed. You will never see anything move faster than light, it just shortens itself into a 2d object with 0 depth as it approaches the speed of light.
So not a bajillion km a sec, just 300,000 km/sec
But then there is no limit to how fast we could move? Like there is no speed our heads would explode. There's no side effect of speed I guess is what I'm asking. Like 2x speed of light would be no different to us then 5km/hr. Sounds like the only thing would be stuff external to us like the length getting shorter. I get in atmosphere we'd be shredded. But technically we can just go.
Yes, movement is undetectable unless you have something to track your movement against. In fact, there's no way to define "staying still" that's true for everyone in the universe.
You can only feel acceleration, not constant speed movement.
2x the speed of light is impossible. As things move faster, time slows down so they can't make as big of a change to their movement speed using the same amount of energy. Instead, lengths contract so your destination doesn't appear to be as far as it would have been at the start of your journey.
Awesome thanks for all the information.
Here is my take away, speed is not real. Its a concept created by Big Relativity.
Just mindblowing to me that speed does have no effect on us under certain conditions. Like learning that pregnancy can work in zero G. As if we are star people not just Merpeople from the ocean.
Yeah I'd suggest looking at frames of reference and how time dilation keeps the speed of light constant or in other words special relativity.
Technically, you can do this in the air too. The air just needs to be moving at the same speed you are.
It probably can since there is very little friction up there
Orbital.
Dafuq’s a speeding bullet???
A bullet that is not at rest relative to the point where an external force has acted upon it.
So it can get a speeding ticket?