It's dangerous to deal drugs to famous people. The police will actually care and investigate if they overdose. Take note, ketamine dealers!
But the money meanwhile must be astronomical!
"...an anesthesiologist who served as his primary care physician" that seems like the problem right there.
"Uf, that's a nasty cold you got there, Matthew, let me grab you a few benzos."
Michael Jackson was taking Propofol as a sleep aid. You're not far off.
This is just awful. RIP Chandler Bing.
I was not a fan of Friends, but I'm much more not a fan of preying on people's addictions for money until you kill them.
I loved him as Oz in The Whole Nine Yards.
He created and starred in a very short-lived TV show called Mr. Sunshine where he managed a sports arena. I really liked it.
Haven’t seen it. I’ll keep a look out for it.
I loved him on Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. Could never understand why it was cancelled.
30 rock came out at the same time with basically the same premise but was actually funny.
Sorkin was going for a "comedy show within a dramatic show" thing and could not make the comedy work, which undercut the drama. It just wasn't believable.
The cast was stunningly good, but because the dramatic context was so flimsy, it all just sort of collapsed as a concept.
I don't know. It should be easier to get drugs, and safely. Instead, this is the system we have. I don't know his situation intimately, but I don't know how this could have been better if you don't take off the table that he wanted these drugs.
Having someone else inject you though sounds like a recipe for disaster. Don't rope people in unnecessarily who could then face legal problems over it.
Some drugs? Sure. Ketamine? I would not go that far. There are certain substances the general public should not have easy access to, general anesthetics being one of them.
If nothing else, ketamine has been used as a date rape drug.
I'm ignorant of a lot of things. But I watched a video of people drinking extracted thc circa probably the 50s given the black and white video. They were asking questions of the test subject throughout. 70 years later it's finally becoming available. Nothing but lies on lies. I see mdma is being thrown under the bus recently. I'm just saying I'm open to more than what's been allowed.
And I am too. But not for things that people literally use for date rape because they can pretty quickly cause complete unconsciousness (as that is their purpose).
I have no problem with THC and its derivatives. THC is generally not something rapists use. Same with MDMA. MDMA might make someone extra cuddly, but they'll still be able to fight back if someone tries to rape them. Because they're still conscious.
Do you think Rohypnol should be freely available over the counter as well? GHB? Because I'm thinking maybe we don't create a whole bunch of new Bill Cosbys.
Ketamine is a party drug, it’s not a date rape drug.
You might as well call booze a date rape drug because if you get drunk enough you black out.
I agree with you, I’ve never heard of ket being used for date rape.
That said, GHB definitely has and it’s one of my favourite party drugs hahaha
Certain drugs, such as Rohypnol, GHB, and Ketamine, are sometimes called “rape drugs” because they can be used to facilitate sexual assault
Since the mid-1990s, the media and researchers have also documented an increased use of drugs such as flunitrazepam and ketamine to facilitate sexual assaults in the context of dating.
The setting people prefer is heavily dependent on dose and method of administration. Lower doses that still permit some level of walking, dancing, and talking can be used in real-world social scenes, i.e. clubs, parties or other gatherings. Higher doses are generally taken only while lying down in a safe space.
As with many anaesthetics, ketamine can cause varying degrees of nausea, usually related to dose. To reduce the likelihood of nausea, food is not generally consumed within ninety minutes before the trip, and is avoided for longer periods of time if possible. While vomiting is rare, travelling to the bathroom is no fun, as movement can increase nausea. Cautious users may keep a bucket available as a precaution. Some people find cannabis helpful to quell nausea. Experienced higher-dose ketamine users situate themselves in a place where they can stay for several hours, with any desired amenities close at hand. A sober sitter is convenient for changing music, providing sips of water, and generally making sure everything is going smoothly. Complete darkness can eliminate some strange and unique visual experiences, so many users prefer to take ketamine in a dimly lit room.
Music can be powerful for "driving" the trip, with individual tunes helping to create visionary vignettes. However, ketamine does not treat audio perception so well; it may produce a narrowing of the user's aural bandwidth. Many users choose mellow instrumental music with a psychedelic flavor, and they keep the sound level down a bit as music can sound louder when under the influence. Touch can be exceptional, and some swear by the benefits of receiving massage therapy and bodywork while on ketamine. Smells and tastes are usually reported as being dulled. Some users find they are largely unable to talk, while others speak in clipped, robotic-sounding utterances. Mental reflection and introspection is fairly common, but enhanced emotionality much less so. Physical warmth may be important to attend to, as users can become cold from inactivity. Many users take ketamine while lying in bed, with a blanket nearby.
Some sources characterize ketamine as a boring drug. Some users complain that it removes them so completely from their bodies that it is difficult to work with. Others have found ketamine to be potent and malleable: an experience that they can tailor by paying close attention to the dose and setting. Many ketamine users experience ketamine as compellingly unique among psychedelic drugs, although PCP, DXM, nitrous oxide, and Salvia divinorum are the most commonly made comparisons. Users sometimes express that the high-dose experience is unique and strong enough that only experienced trippers who want a potentially life-changing out-of-body experience should attempt high doses. Ketamine is often described as having a good recovery time, with little negative effect on the following day--perhaps only a mild hangover.
Selfish AF to want your flavor of drugs more easily available at the cost of vulnerable women smh typical party bro
You’re the one missing the point. Go fight to get booze outlawed if you’re so incensed by a recreational drug that can lead to an unconscious state or used inappropriately by a 3rd party.
Selfish AF to want to continue the war on drugs and prohibition. How many lives has that ruined? smh typical American.
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And failing silently is a good failure mode. This top level post here is worthless.
I appreciate you sharing your views on this. You make some good points.
It's dangerous to deal drugs to famous people. The police will actually care and investigate if they overdose. Take note, ketamine dealers!
But the money meanwhile must be astronomical!
"...an anesthesiologist who served as his primary care physician" that seems like the problem right there.
"Uf, that's a nasty cold you got there, Matthew, let me grab you a few benzos."
Michael Jackson was taking Propofol as a sleep aid. You're not far off.
This is just awful. RIP Chandler Bing.
I was not a fan of Friends, but I'm much more not a fan of preying on people's addictions for money until you kill them.
I loved him as Oz in The Whole Nine Yards.
He created and starred in a very short-lived TV show called Mr. Sunshine where he managed a sports arena. I really liked it.
Haven’t seen it. I’ll keep a look out for it.
I loved him on Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. Could never understand why it was cancelled.
30 rock came out at the same time with basically the same premise but was actually funny.
Sorkin was going for a "comedy show within a dramatic show" thing and could not make the comedy work, which undercut the drama. It just wasn't believable.
The cast was stunningly good, but because the dramatic context was so flimsy, it all just sort of collapsed as a concept.
I don't know. It should be easier to get drugs, and safely. Instead, this is the system we have. I don't know his situation intimately, but I don't know how this could have been better if you don't take off the table that he wanted these drugs.
Having someone else inject you though sounds like a recipe for disaster. Don't rope people in unnecessarily who could then face legal problems over it.
Some drugs? Sure. Ketamine? I would not go that far. There are certain substances the general public should not have easy access to, general anesthetics being one of them.
If nothing else, ketamine has been used as a date rape drug.
I'm ignorant of a lot of things. But I watched a video of people drinking extracted thc circa probably the 50s given the black and white video. They were asking questions of the test subject throughout. 70 years later it's finally becoming available. Nothing but lies on lies. I see mdma is being thrown under the bus recently. I'm just saying I'm open to more than what's been allowed.
And I am too. But not for things that people literally use for date rape because they can pretty quickly cause complete unconsciousness (as that is their purpose).
I have no problem with THC and its derivatives. THC is generally not something rapists use. Same with MDMA. MDMA might make someone extra cuddly, but they'll still be able to fight back if someone tries to rape them. Because they're still conscious.
Do you think Rohypnol should be freely available over the counter as well? GHB? Because I'm thinking maybe we don't create a whole bunch of new Bill Cosbys.
Ketamine is a party drug, it’s not a date rape drug.
You might as well call booze a date rape drug because if you get drunk enough you black out.
I agree with you, I’ve never heard of ket being used for date rape.
That said, GHB definitely has and it’s one of my favourite party drugs hahaha
https://www.butler.edu/well-being/date-rape-drugs/
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/date-rape-drugs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_rape_drug#Depressants
Furthermore, this describes what happens to the victim when ketamine is used as a date rape drug: https://www.thehealthsite.com/diseases-conditions/date-rape-drug-ketamine-effects-p114-111164/
You can party with other date rape drugs too. Are you really suggesting general anesthetics should be OTC?
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_faq.shtml
Ketamine is a party drug.
https://youtu.be/a0VHIvwCehs?si=zf747S-WA0B71kb1
https://youtu.be/xuPNmXtomNw?si=9F7wZWC7XSTfL5C0
https://youtu.be/Io8HPSWhx8w?si=uyfj6iCIWPRGiArA
Yes, again, date rape drugs can also be party drugs.
And, again, are you arguing that general anesthetics should be OTC?
Do you call alcohol a date rape drug?
I will answer your question when you answer the one I have asked you twice now.
Way to miss the point by a fucking mile dude
Selfish AF to want your flavor of drugs more easily available at the cost of vulnerable women smh typical party bro
You’re the one missing the point. Go fight to get booze outlawed if you’re so incensed by a recreational drug that can lead to an unconscious state or used inappropriately by a 3rd party.
Selfish AF to want to continue the war on drugs and prohibition. How many lives has that ruined? smh typical American.
Could this BE any worse?
Sorry, I will see myself out.
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Bad bot. Just don't comment if you don't know anything.
Everyone's got such a huge hate boner for this bot, but I have no idea why.
In this case, by saying it doesn't have info on the source it clues user into the fact that it's not a very large or popular source, which is an extra bit of data readers can take with them even if they don't do any more research beyond that.
If it was my bot, I would probably program it to do that, rather than do nothing in cases like this.
My issues are:
Honestly, if this was just a bot that gave links to information about the source, like MBFC, Wikipedia, the source site's official about page, info about parent companies, info on the author of the article, etc., I would probably upvote it. A tool that gives me the power to review several different sources of information and come to my own conclusion would be great.
It's the fact that it tries to steer people's perception of the article by giving your MBFC'S score of the publisher out-of-context that bothers me. I don't want a bot telling me how to feel about every media source.
And failing silently is a good failure mode. This top level post here is worthless.
I appreciate you sharing your views on this. You make some good points.