For the good of the entire fucking world, Jill Stein should go away. Go back to practicing medicine, where you're usually limited to only killing one person at a time.
There's no excuse for the Democrats' support for Israel's genocidal wars, and Biden is complicit in his unwavering material (materiel? Both? Both.) support that allows them to continue doing it. I hate that if I don't vote for the enabling-genocide party, I'll get the enabling-genocide-but-also-women-are-things-and-LGBTQ-people-shouldn't-exist party.
So instead her goal is to ensure the election of Donald Trump and his merry band of eschatological fetishists, who'll not only do the same thing because their literal goal is to bring about the apocalypse, but also bring back all his very smart domestic policies and hand the government over to the Project 2025 fanatics to turn the United States into Gilead. Brilliant. Real big-picture thinking there, doctor.
I'd argue she shouldn't be allowed to practice anything other than some deep breathing and self-reflection.
Good thing you're not in charge, then!
Go back to practicing medicine, where you’re usually limited to only killing one person at a time.
Any source or links that say she kills people as a doctor?
Yay more nonsense about Jill Stein from someone who prefers a Trump victory. Everyone enjoy your dose of bad faith comments from OP while they continue their totally real crusade against the duopoly. Absolutely not a troll account managed by a bunch of people spamming bullshit day in and day out.
I didn't write the article, so how does that mean I prefer a Trump victory. If I preferred a Trump victory, wouldn't it just be easier for me to vote for him?!
Absolutely not a troll account managed by a bunch of people spamming bullshit day in and day out.
Thank you for realizing and admitting that you know I'm not a troll account managed by a bunch of people! :)
Yeah, she'll stop Kamala and hand it to Trump. Nobody is "flocking" to her.
Well if no one is flocking to her, then you don't have to worry about her stopping Harris. Right?
She will get the same 3% she does every year, and it will be the same 3% that Hillary lost by in swing states in 2016.
Saying the quiet part out loud?
Who?
"We would rather let Trump endorse killing everyone in Gaza before supporting a cease fire and two state solution."
That's really what this boils down to.
This will cause a firestorm.
Maybe. When and if this silly bint gets Trump elected he will happily sell Israel enough incendiary weapons to vaporize every Palestinian alive.
It might. And I'll probably get lots messages about how I am voting for Trump (which I'm not). All because I posted the article. lol
"So they have to do a 180 .... She said the U.S. must "rein Israel in"
But she doesn't have a plan to win Jewish votes it seems.
How and Why I Will Stop Kamala Harris Winning the White House
I assume that is Newsweek being sensational rather than a direct quote... if it is a direct quote, Stein is basically admitting that she's supporting a GOP win. Considering the difference in positions the Green party officially has regarding policy (e.g. immigration), this doesn't make sense unless Stein is just outright lying about her policy positions.
I mean, wtf? Ok, so this actually isn't the first time (RFK Jr comes time mind), but, what?!
At least, this article might make it easier for me to convince folks to not vote for Stein.
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I wonder if she's willing to risk the future of democracy in America to detach the US from Israel.
It appears so.
You sound like you believe her BS. She risks the future of democracy in America for Putin, and detaching the US from Israel is the means, not the ends.
How is the future of democracy going to be risked?
Jill Stein cannot win this election. She can only spoil it for Kamala Harris and in so doing pass the win to Donald Trump.
Donald Trump and the RNC are a material threat to democracy in the USA.
Maybe the Democrats should be nicer to Green Voters instead of calling them idiots or traitors every time they say they are gonna vote Green.
I'm not voting Green party, but the hate and rudeness I have received here guaranteed that I won't vote Democrat. No way.
the hate and rudeness I have received here guaranteed that I won’t vote Democrat. No way.
Which, in the eyes of rational people, makes you an idiot and a traitor. An idiot, because you're letting your bruised ego get in the way of making the only rational choice in the upcoming election, potentially causing a much greater amount of harm in the future. And a traitor, because the person you're most benefitting by your aforementioned idiocy is someone who has already committed treason against his country, and has stated on several occasions that he would like to do away with basic tenets of democracy if he gets elected.
So, you might balk at both labels, but both are accurate. If you don't like it, you have two options: either change your behavior, or pretend that self-affirmations will actually alter reality.
Nah, I'll just keep voting third party. Happily and proudly. Thank you! :)
Right, which is the second of the two options. I'm assuming this is also accompanied by you occasionally standing in front of a mirror saying: "I am not stupid. I am not a traitor. People like me." Delusion's a powerful thing.
Why would I stand in front of a mirror after I talk about voting?! What?! I don't even understand what you are trying to say, but you haven't changed my vote. Thanks!
I don’t even understand what you are trying to say
This really doesn't surprise me at all. Being confused about things seems like a default for you.
Ok. Thank you! :)
Trump is the bed liberals made for themselves when they kept punching left and ignoring everyone telling them what would happen if you supported Clinton in 2016. And we were right about how things played out.
100%. Harris is no peach either. I'd much rather someone with Stein's policies win.
But she doesn't have any chance. And it's imperative that Trump not win.
You're agreeing with someone who would rather have trump than anyone else.
And let’s be honest here, steins foreign policy is almost literally cut and pasted from the kremlin’s party line. I assume they fixed some translation errors.
It can both be true that the DNC helped in some way to move the Overton Window in the US rightward and that the primary movers of said window, the fascist RNC party, must not win the election or the consequences will be dire.
Stein's policies are simply more progressive and better for America. But they're likely unobtainable in the current political climate and she can afford to make such grandiose goals as policy because she isn't beholden to them as she has no chance of winning.
Fuck Jill Stein. I'm not interested in evaluating the policy positions of a wack job who is now clearly only here to be a spoiler.
I like some of Stein's policies, but a lot of them are just silly and naive. She wants to abolish the Electoral College, for instance. Great, but since that's directly in the Constitution, she's going to get an amendment through with a 2/3rds vote in both houses of Congress and ratified by 3/4ths the states? Which kinda requires some of the red ones?
Then big one for me, is "peace-loving" Stein is critical of Ukraine aid. I cannot support hanging them out to dry like that, even though we promised to help keep them secure after convincing them to de-nuclearize, after the fall of the USSR in the Budapest Memorandum.
Our word has to be worth more than that.
I'm all for progress towards a utopian world, but offering one as your policy platform is a little manipulative when we have a government of checks and balances that has some republicans in it.
Yep! I would have voted for Bernie!
Trump is an incompetent idiot. I don't think he's a threat to democracy though. I'm not afraid of him. You are free to be, but nah, I'm not.
The man literally advocated for an American Kristallnacht at a rally recently.
You are a fool to not see him and his dictatorial ambitions as a threat. Project 2025 clearly outlines the RNC's goals to shift the nation towards a dictatorship and remove dissident ideologies by force.
Furthermore, the future for Palestine will fare no better under Trump than Harris. All Stein is doing by purposely trying to spoil a win for Harris is enabling and aiding the growth of fascism in the US.
I'm not scared of him at all. I like Stein, even tho I'm not voting for her.
How is Stein a spoiler? Most of us wouldnt vote for Harris even if there were no 3rd party. Harris is now backed by the guy that helped write P2025 and helped found the Heritage Foundation, and that's how it will end up being bipartisan with liberals supporting it in a few years. Liberals are cheering in their party becoming a full fledged openly right wing party
How are you someone to be taken seriously? Like Stein, there's public history to consider.
She's a spoiler because she can't get to 270. It's literally impossible because she's not on enough ballots.
Also dude liberals are and have always been center right...Clinton's didn't push the gop further right, the GOP went on their own.
She's on enough ballots to get 538 The DNC pushed the RNC further to the right as they kept pushing their own party to the right.
If you didn't know about Stein I'm betting you know nothing about triangulation, the DLC, Third Way Democrats. All Bill Clinton policies to shift your party into becoming right wing conservatives they are today. Far enough right wing for people like Heritage Foundation founder members endorsing Harris. The same guy that wrote P2025.
The Heritage Foundation was founded on February 16, 1973, during the Nixon administration by Paul Weyrich, Edwin Feulner, and Joseph Coors.[11][12][13]
So uh, which one endorsed Harris? And Proj 2025 has dozens of authors, not one btw.
Mickey Edwards, one of the founders and founding trustee
A trustee is someone that manages the assets for someone else, in this case an organization.
Put down the crack pipe.
I'm guessing you wouldn't know politicalcorruption if it was standing in front of demanding you vote for it
My brother! Who gets accused of being a bot more, you or me?!
I’m not afraid of him
Gee, I wonder why.
“The leopard surely won’t eat my face! I’m helping get him elected!”
That could just never happen.
As you well know, Trump has already tried a coup once and has promised many authoritarian horrors. No one believes you don't know about that stuff.
“When I’m president you’ll never have to [get to] vote again!”-the orange turd.
But it’s okay, Because you’re not afraid of trump.
Correct, I am not afraid. Thank you!
For everyone else reading, this is the mask off moment of this poster's true intentions with the incessant propaganda.
What do you think the mask off moment is? I have always said I am not scared of Trump. In several posts. Since day one. In fact, even the person I was replying referenced the fact that I always say I'm not afraid of Trump.
So what mask do you think is off?
Here let me actually make it bold for you, so you can remember, even tho I have said it several times: I don't care if Trump wins, because I'm not afraid of him. I'm not voting for Trump or Harris. I don't like either one. I. Don't. Care.
And what propaganda have I posted? I don't write the news articles, friend. I just post them. And even then, it's not the article, it's just a link to an article.
Did you think I was the one writing them, hosting them, editing them, or publishing them!? If you feel the news org that writes and hosts the articles are writing propaganda, have you written to them about your concerns?
For the good of the entire fucking world, Jill Stein should go away. Go back to practicing medicine, where you're usually limited to only killing one person at a time.
There's no excuse for the Democrats' support for Israel's genocidal wars, and Biden is complicit in his unwavering material (materiel? Both? Both.) support that allows them to continue doing it. I hate that if I don't vote for the enabling-genocide party, I'll get the enabling-genocide-but-also-women-are-things-and-LGBTQ-people-shouldn't-exist party.
So instead her goal is to ensure the election of Donald Trump and his merry band of eschatological fetishists, who'll not only do the same thing because their literal goal is to bring about the apocalypse, but also bring back all his very smart domestic policies and hand the government over to the Project 2025 fanatics to turn the United States into Gilead. Brilliant. Real big-picture thinking there, doctor.
I'd argue she shouldn't be allowed to practice anything other than some deep breathing and self-reflection.
Good thing you're not in charge, then!
Any source or links that say she kills people as a doctor?
Yay more nonsense about Jill Stein from someone who prefers a Trump victory. Everyone enjoy your dose of bad faith comments from OP while they continue their totally real crusade against the duopoly. Absolutely not a troll account managed by a bunch of people spamming bullshit day in and day out.
I didn't write the article, so how does that mean I prefer a Trump victory. If I preferred a Trump victory, wouldn't it just be easier for me to vote for him?!
Thank you for realizing and admitting that you know I'm not a troll account managed by a bunch of people! :)
Yeah, she'll stop Kamala and hand it to Trump. Nobody is "flocking" to her.
Well if no one is flocking to her, then you don't have to worry about her stopping Harris. Right?
She will get the same 3% she does every year, and it will be the same 3% that Hillary lost by in swing states in 2016.
Saying the quiet part out loud?
Who?
"We would rather let Trump endorse killing everyone in Gaza before supporting a cease fire and two state solution."
That's really what this boils down to.
This will cause a firestorm.
Maybe. When and if this silly bint gets Trump elected he will happily sell Israel enough incendiary weapons to vaporize every Palestinian alive.
It might. And I'll probably get lots messages about how I am voting for Trump (which I'm not). All because I posted the article. lol
But she doesn't have a plan to win Jewish votes it seems.
I assume that is Newsweek being sensational rather than a direct quote... if it is a direct quote, Stein is basically admitting that she's supporting a GOP win. Considering the difference in positions the Green party officially has regarding policy (e.g. immigration), this doesn't make sense unless Stein is just outright lying about her policy positions.
I mean, wtf? Ok, so this actually isn't the first time (RFK Jr comes time mind), but, what?!
At least, this article might make it easier for me to convince folks to not vote for Stein.
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I wonder if she's willing to risk the future of democracy in America to detach the US from Israel.
It appears so.
You sound like you believe her BS. She risks the future of democracy in America for Putin, and detaching the US from Israel is the means, not the ends.
How is the future of democracy going to be risked?
Jill Stein cannot win this election. She can only spoil it for Kamala Harris and in so doing pass the win to Donald Trump.
Donald Trump and the RNC are a material threat to democracy in the USA.
Maybe the Democrats should be nicer to Green Voters instead of calling them idiots or traitors every time they say they are gonna vote Green.
I'm not voting Green party, but the hate and rudeness I have received here guaranteed that I won't vote Democrat. No way.
Which, in the eyes of rational people, makes you an idiot and a traitor. An idiot, because you're letting your bruised ego get in the way of making the only rational choice in the upcoming election, potentially causing a much greater amount of harm in the future. And a traitor, because the person you're most benefitting by your aforementioned idiocy is someone who has already committed treason against his country, and has stated on several occasions that he would like to do away with basic tenets of democracy if he gets elected.
So, you might balk at both labels, but both are accurate. If you don't like it, you have two options: either change your behavior, or pretend that self-affirmations will actually alter reality.
Nah, I'll just keep voting third party. Happily and proudly. Thank you! :)
Right, which is the second of the two options. I'm assuming this is also accompanied by you occasionally standing in front of a mirror saying: "I am not stupid. I am not a traitor. People like me." Delusion's a powerful thing.
Why would I stand in front of a mirror after I talk about voting?! What?! I don't even understand what you are trying to say, but you haven't changed my vote. Thanks!
This really doesn't surprise me at all. Being confused about things seems like a default for you.
Ok. Thank you! :)
Trump is the bed liberals made for themselves when they kept punching left and ignoring everyone telling them what would happen if you supported Clinton in 2016. And we were right about how things played out.
100%. Harris is no peach either. I'd much rather someone with Stein's policies win.
But she doesn't have any chance. And it's imperative that Trump not win.
You're agreeing with someone who would rather have trump than anyone else.
And let’s be honest here, steins foreign policy is almost literally cut and pasted from the kremlin’s party line. I assume they fixed some translation errors.
It can both be true that the DNC helped in some way to move the Overton Window in the US rightward and that the primary movers of said window, the fascist RNC party, must not win the election or the consequences will be dire.
Stein's policies are simply more progressive and better for America. But they're likely unobtainable in the current political climate and she can afford to make such grandiose goals as policy because she isn't beholden to them as she has no chance of winning.
Fuck Jill Stein. I'm not interested in evaluating the policy positions of a wack job who is now clearly only here to be a spoiler.
I like some of Stein's policies, but a lot of them are just silly and naive. She wants to abolish the Electoral College, for instance. Great, but since that's directly in the Constitution, she's going to get an amendment through with a 2/3rds vote in both houses of Congress and ratified by 3/4ths the states? Which kinda requires some of the red ones?
Then big one for me, is "peace-loving" Stein is critical of Ukraine aid. I cannot support hanging them out to dry like that, even though we promised to help keep them secure after convincing them to de-nuclearize, after the fall of the USSR in the Budapest Memorandum.
Our word has to be worth more than that.
I'm all for progress towards a utopian world, but offering one as your policy platform is a little manipulative when we have a government of checks and balances that has some republicans in it.
Yep! I would have voted for Bernie!
Trump is an incompetent idiot. I don't think he's a threat to democracy though. I'm not afraid of him. You are free to be, but nah, I'm not.
The man literally advocated for an American Kristallnacht at a rally recently.
You are a fool to not see him and his dictatorial ambitions as a threat. Project 2025 clearly outlines the RNC's goals to shift the nation towards a dictatorship and remove dissident ideologies by force.
Furthermore, the future for Palestine will fare no better under Trump than Harris. All Stein is doing by purposely trying to spoil a win for Harris is enabling and aiding the growth of fascism in the US.
I'm not scared of him at all. I like Stein, even tho I'm not voting for her.
How is Stein a spoiler? Most of us wouldnt vote for Harris even if there were no 3rd party. Harris is now backed by the guy that helped write P2025 and helped found the Heritage Foundation, and that's how it will end up being bipartisan with liberals supporting it in a few years. Liberals are cheering in their party becoming a full fledged openly right wing party
How are you someone to be taken seriously? Like Stein, there's public history to consider.
She's a spoiler because she can't get to 270. It's literally impossible because she's not on enough ballots.
Also dude liberals are and have always been center right...Clinton's didn't push the gop further right, the GOP went on their own.
She's on enough ballots to get 538 The DNC pushed the RNC further to the right as they kept pushing their own party to the right.
If you didn't know about Stein I'm betting you know nothing about triangulation, the DLC, Third Way Democrats. All Bill Clinton policies to shift your party into becoming right wing conservatives they are today. Far enough right wing for people like Heritage Foundation founder members endorsing Harris. The same guy that wrote P2025.
So uh, which one endorsed Harris? And Proj 2025 has dozens of authors, not one btw.
Mickey Edwards, one of the founders and founding trustee
A trustee is someone that manages the assets for someone else, in this case an organization.
Put down the crack pipe.
I'm guessing you wouldn't know politicalcorruption if it was standing in front of demanding you vote for it
My brother! Who gets accused of being a bot more, you or me?!
Gee, I wonder why.
“The leopard surely won’t eat my face! I’m helping get him elected!”
That could just never happen.
As you well know, Trump has already tried a coup once and has promised many authoritarian horrors. No one believes you don't know about that stuff.
“When I’m president you’ll never have to [get to] vote again!”-the orange turd.
But it’s okay, Because you’re not afraid of trump.
Correct, I am not afraid. Thank you!
For everyone else reading, this is the mask off moment of this poster's true intentions with the incessant propaganda.
What do you think the mask off moment is? I have always said I am not scared of Trump. In several posts. Since day one. In fact, even the person I was replying referenced the fact that I always say I'm not afraid of Trump.
So what mask do you think is off?
Here let me actually make it bold for you, so you can remember, even tho I have said it several times: I don't care if Trump wins, because I'm not afraid of him. I'm not voting for Trump or Harris. I don't like either one. I. Don't. Care.
And what propaganda have I posted? I don't write the news articles, friend. I just post them. And even then, it's not the article, it's just a link to an article.
Did you think I was the one writing them, hosting them, editing them, or publishing them!? If you feel the news org that writes and hosts the articles are writing propaganda, have you written to them about your concerns?