It's one thing to hear the warnings of scientists my entire life on the ravages of climate change. It is entirely another to see it play out in real life. News of fire and destruction will become as commonplace as school shootings in less than 10 years. Living in Hell will be normal soon.
With the same people who block action on gun violence now offering thoughts and prayers to climate change victims and saying that anyone trying to solve the problem is just politicizing a tragedy.
How is this fire related to climate change? Genuine question because I don't understand the connection
Based on my own training in environmental science, I can say that virtually all phenomena in nature have multiple, interacting causes. To synthesize what I've read about the wildfires on Maui, the direct factors were: invasive grass species which have taken over much of the land area after the sugar cane and pineapple plantations shut down decades ago; a flash drought on the island; and high winds from Hurricane Dora. A flash drought means it's hot and dry enough to pull moisture out of the plants and the ground, so the conditions on the island were very, very dry. The dry grasses burn quickly and intensely, and the fire was fanned by 70-80MPH winds from the hurricane passing by in the Pacific Ocean.
Climate change has a role in making flash droughts much more likely, and more intense. It also helps fuel bigger, stronger hurricanes. Thus, a flash drought coinciding with a hurricane is much more likely due to it.
Thank you for the detailed explanation!
If only I had Lemmy silver to give
Changes to rain patterns, higher temperatures drying vegetation…what might have been minor or even nothing can now become an inferno.
It is entirely another to see it play out in real life. News of fire and destruction will become as commonplace as school shootings in less than 10 years
in some countries, it already is!
In Australia someone's house burnt down the other day. I haven't heard of any bushfires this year, but that house burning down sure pushed us ahead of the school shooting count for the year.
So many historical sites just GONE. Spent Summer's in my teens working jobs along Front Street. Extremely sad and I hope they get the hope they need soon.
They'll get the hope they need for sure! All those thought and prayers will surely build their hope.
In this economy?!
My grandma grew up in Lahaina and sadly her mother’s ashes are gone with the Buddhist temple that burned down :(
I just flew out of Oahu back to San Diego. I thought I was seeing a pool of lava and took a picture excitedly. Then I learned about all of this after getting home…
would you mind sharing that photo?
Yes please!
Thanks, Big Oil!
It burned the color out.
Did they actually use greyscale or similar to make it look worse than it already is?
That’s how shit looks after it burns. You ever seen a campfire? And cloud cover or smoke filters daylight which actually reveals a lot of natural color. Think about what your town looks like on an overcast day vs a clear one.
Also, a lot of ashes falling everywhere makes everything look grey.
The image below has enough hints of color that I think it's a color image, too. I guess there's so much smoke in the air that the sunlight is getting filtered and everything looks grey.
I guess a lot of it is due to the unclear sky, there still is a lot of smoke visible in the bottom picture. Direct sunlight makes the colours more vibrant, whereas grey sky will also reflect on the sea greyish. It's always possible they might also have helped a bit with a filter.
Wow! The fire spontaneously created another dock in the water!
I mean, everything else matches; it's exactly where the worst of the fires happened (Lahaina), and nothing else anywhere near there looks like this. It's probably a structure that was added after the one at the top. Temporary floating dock or something.
Commenting this just bc it sounds like you're casting suspicion on the photos, but I'm pretty sure they're the same place.
It's one thing to hear the warnings of scientists my entire life on the ravages of climate change. It is entirely another to see it play out in real life. News of fire and destruction will become as commonplace as school shootings in less than 10 years. Living in Hell will be normal soon.
With the same people who block action on gun violence now offering thoughts and prayers to climate change victims and saying that anyone trying to solve the problem is just politicizing a tragedy.
How is this fire related to climate change? Genuine question because I don't understand the connection
Based on my own training in environmental science, I can say that virtually all phenomena in nature have multiple, interacting causes. To synthesize what I've read about the wildfires on Maui, the direct factors were: invasive grass species which have taken over much of the land area after the sugar cane and pineapple plantations shut down decades ago; a flash drought on the island; and high winds from Hurricane Dora. A flash drought means it's hot and dry enough to pull moisture out of the plants and the ground, so the conditions on the island were very, very dry. The dry grasses burn quickly and intensely, and the fire was fanned by 70-80MPH winds from the hurricane passing by in the Pacific Ocean.
Climate change has a role in making flash droughts much more likely, and more intense. It also helps fuel bigger, stronger hurricanes. Thus, a flash drought coinciding with a hurricane is much more likely due to it.
Thank you for the detailed explanation!
If only I had Lemmy silver to give
Changes to rain patterns, higher temperatures drying vegetation…what might have been minor or even nothing can now become an inferno.
in some countries, it already is!
In Australia someone's house burnt down the other day. I haven't heard of any bushfires this year, but that house burning down sure pushed us ahead of the school shooting count for the year.
So many historical sites just GONE. Spent Summer's in my teens working jobs along Front Street. Extremely sad and I hope they get the hope they need soon.
They'll get the hope they need for sure! All those thought and prayers will surely build their hope.
In this economy?!
My grandma grew up in Lahaina and sadly her mother’s ashes are gone with the Buddhist temple that burned down :(
I just flew out of Oahu back to San Diego. I thought I was seeing a pool of lava and took a picture excitedly. Then I learned about all of this after getting home…
would you mind sharing that photo?
Yes please!
Thanks, Big Oil!
It burned the color out.
Did they actually use greyscale or similar to make it look worse than it already is?
That’s how shit looks after it burns. You ever seen a campfire? And cloud cover or smoke filters daylight which actually reveals a lot of natural color. Think about what your town looks like on an overcast day vs a clear one.
Also, a lot of ashes falling everywhere makes everything look grey.
The image below has enough hints of color that I think it's a color image, too. I guess there's so much smoke in the air that the sunlight is getting filtered and everything looks grey.
I guess a lot of it is due to the unclear sky, there still is a lot of smoke visible in the bottom picture. Direct sunlight makes the colours more vibrant, whereas grey sky will also reflect on the sea greyish. It's always possible they might also have helped a bit with a filter.
Here are clearer, more close-up pictures:
Wow! The fire spontaneously created another dock in the water!
I mean, everything else matches; it's exactly where the worst of the fires happened (Lahaina), and nothing else anywhere near there looks like this. It's probably a structure that was added after the one at the top. Temporary floating dock or something.
Commenting this just bc it sounds like you're casting suspicion on the photos, but I'm pretty sure they're the same place.
Looks like some kind of ferry.
How that could've happen?