Why on Earth does the Lemmy post feed update itself while I am trying to read it, and how do I stop it from doing that?

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I cannot put into words how profoundly stupid this "feature" is. AOL and Geocities pages were genuinely more user friendly. Whoever added it, refreshed the page and said "yeah, this works well" and left it in should be fired! ...out of a cannon and into the Sun!

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So, keep in mind, Lemmy is an incredibly young platform. It's still kinda buggy and it looks like they got caught a little bit flatfooted (which is fair, who would have considered that Spez was this much of an idiot prior to it happening).

It's likely that the project has a number of bugs that will have to be ironed out now that they're rolling at a decently sized scale, and this is one of them. Things will likely get patched up fairly quickly, but it still requires dev time.

I think we need to make the auto-updating feature opt-in. No sense in designing a software that DDOSes itself.

How young is it? I suppose I could look that up.

Look I just wanted to comment on your name okay? <3 Shin Chan!

There's already a pull request to fix this, it's being merged in v18

I would assume that this would also reduce load on the lemmy servers.

It should, since the clients wouldn't have to constantly ping and fetch new posts from the server, but only do so on demand.

It should, since the clients wouldn't have to constant ping and fetch new posts from the server, but only do so on demand.

I remember someone saying this 'feature' is from a relatively long time ago, when it wasn't so active around here, so it was actually kinda useful. It should be removed soon

It was never exactly a feature, it was to do with how websockets handled new posts. They're movinig away from websockets in 0.18 so it won't be a thing anymore.

And it was never useful, by any sane argument. NEVER (purposefully) spontaneously move text out from underneath a user's eyes!

Is that just for the feed or comments too? I like it on the comments

Probably both, since I doubt that the Lemmy devs would move only half the site away from web sockets. They probably use similar enough code behind the scenes that a change to that would affect both posts and comments.

I tried clicking on this post, by the feed reshuffled before I could.

I can't with this...

I was getting ready to reply and it literally timed out on me! Lol

Also, Futurama!

Happy someone caught the reference!

Also, if you are impatient like I am, consider giving kbin.social a try. It doesn't seem to have the issues that lemmy does, but still has all the same content! (as far as I can tell, anyway)

Hooray!

I looked at kbin but it doesn't have an app. Mastodon comes up but I don't know what that is yet. I'm not terribly impatient though, so I can handle the growing pains at the moment.

This is why I'm using kbin right now.

I am on kbin now, and, so far, it seems actually usable. Thank you for a working solution!

I like how kbin functions, but now how it looks. Lemmy instances seem more minimal in their design. Idk how to put my finger in it, but kbin just feels clunky imo.

I don't like the way either of them look, to be honest. kbin not refreshing the feed while I am reading it is the sole factor for me.

I read somewhere that kbin supports themes, so you may be able to address your design issues that way.

I believe it's not something you can avoid at the moment. I thought I read something about this being fixed in the next update for the web app, but I don't know where I saw it.

Using apps fixes it

The app has its own issues. Every time I upvote or comment I get a timeout error.

What device and what app?

I’ve tried mlem for ios but it doesn’t seem to load properly for me.

I've tried Mlem and Memmy and both seem to have a single fixed "Hot" feed that has not updated since the last time the apps updated. It's still showing me some startrek post from two days ago, as well as a bunch of posts from beehaw despite it being defederated. Active sorting has this problem of constantly shifting. Going to specific communities and sorting by "Hot" there seems to be the most tolerable way to browse, but only Memmy can even do that. It's rough but hopefully these things will get pretty good pretty fast. I wish kbin had an app but for now the webUI is actually pretty usable.

I believe that's a Lemmy bug requiring an instance restart

Hot is another bug that's being worked on in the github

I didn't encounter these issues while using another instance but lemmy.world.

Yeah I really don't know what instance to go for.

Lemmy.world sounds least political but it's not stable. Apparently beehaw is now also defederated from .world so immediately we're missing some huge communities that are now going to be split across two instances that don't work together.

So now I'll need multiple accounts to use multiple instances of the same thing. This sort of defeats the whole purpose of a connected system. It could just as wel create worse echo chambers than we have on traditional socia media.

If you’re not ready to make your own instance, can use an under-the-radar instance like ours at Lemmy.pro and you’ll avoid the issue

So now I’ll need multiple accounts to use multiple instances of the same thing.

You'll only need one account if you run your own instance (as long as it's not blocked from both servers).

Fair point. I'll have to see if I can host one on a raspberry pi maybe

You should be able to do it pretty easily. There are docker images for ARM64 in Lemmy docker repository so you can run it on pi4. If you have older pi, you'll probably have to build it from source though.

Beehaw defederating from the biggest instances is why I ultimately made an account over here but it's honestly not a good sign that the fediverse is already imploding. Most of us left reddit to get away from idiots on a power-trip trying to control how we talk to each other and it took about eleven seconds for it to get just as bad over here.

Growing pains. It's been a week, for most of us...

If beehaw wants to be a secluded small community they're free to do that. There will be replacement communities.

you can subscribe across instances, and just get all of the communities that you're interested in on the instance you join.

when you browse a community on another instance, there is a message that tells you how to subscribe.

I started using the app for lemmy because of this. The app is really nice!

Websockets for when Lemmy was relatively empty, so an auto update would be one every minute rather than a torrent.

I believe it's not something you can avoid at the moment. I thought I read something about this being fixed in the next update for the web app, but I don't know where I saw it.

It's being fixed in the next lemmy update (not just the app), which I heard should be coming next week.