Everybody deserves a happy and fulfilled life. Not slowly dying alone in a dirty hole for absolutely nothing - led there by lies and propaganda from people who should take care of them, not waste them.
It's just sad.
It's sad, yes, but I hope it was more of a coup de grace than anything else.
Not a bad way to go, compared to bleeding out slowly with no pain meds.
why the downvotes though? he could have stayed home.
Tankies are downvoting everything here by default, it’s a tradition.
Propaganda is a helluva drug. One could make a pretty solid argument that it's killed more than all actual drugs combined. 🤷🏼♂️
I'm not implying anything about this man's former beliefs or reasons for being there, only that those that deserve that grenade the most are pushing that propaganda and haven't set for on any battlefield (nor will they).
Why should I differ one from another, judge them by the evils they made or could have made, bother myself with moral choices? They came to destroy my home, my country. They will all burn. Every single one of them that crossed the border.
And I don't question that for a second, please understand.
It's the people we've left that aren't part of that, I'm concerned with. I know that you're not wrong in any way — and I'd feel the same, were I in your shoes, frankly. You're completely correct. My point is not with those that are dying on any side, but those that are pulling the strings, calling the shots, from their safe places of privilege. They never seem to pay the price of their actions. No. We do.
When it comes to it, I only hope we see the truth of it then: we've been the ones to lose, on every front. The vast majority of us are not different in any real way, and the ways we are, they exploit. We've been dying for them for centuries, over and over and over again.
We're "heroes". We're "essential". We're who they'd be nothing without, but we throw ourselves and those that come after into the fires for them.
When do we say enough is enough? When does it stop?
In another way: can you - or anyone, name a blue-collar citizen anywhere that incited death like this, on a whim? Rhetorical, maybe, but I'll wait. Meanwhile, we're dying and they're laughing all the way to the bank.
As always.
That's not an option for the common soldier. Welcome to Russia.
Do I have to give a single fuck? They came to destroy my home, my country. They will all burn. Every single one of them crossed the border.
For centuries citizens of various countries hadn't a choice and had to fight russian oppressors except for russians themselves who always comply with all the shit they are told to do. This nation is beyond any rescue.
I've watched a bunch of combat footage but I'm not a fan here. Not of the video, but of the action.
Yes he's an invader and UA has a right to defense and to kill invaders and defend their home and I fully support them. But this guy is obviously not combat effective. He's half dead already. His arm is fucked up and he's not gonna be shooting anyone. So killing him for the hell of it feels fucking cold.
Seems like bad strategy too. Let him live and it'll take 2-3 soldiers to evac him, and that's 2-3 soldiers not fighting that day.
Plus it's good PR to let enemy wounded get evac'd shows that you are the good guys.
More like wait for 2-3 soldiers to evac him and then bomb the shit out all of them. That's 2-3 soldiers not fighting ever again.
True, ideally there should be a safe way to surrender without fear of ambush on either side. Collect POW.
Optimistic of you to assume anyone was going to evac him.
The best part is he had some time to regret being on the wrong side of a country that's historically always a scum.
This is actually fucked up. I can't imagine getting off on watching a guy die purely to watch them die. Keep this shit to other subs IMO.
It's beyond being pissed and reveling in someones suffering. Pretty fucked up evil shit.
Eh, I don't really give a fuck about Russian combatants getting blown up at this stage of the war.
Maybe at the beginning of the war when their soldiers didn't realize they're being shipped to Ukraine, sure.
But at this point, this man knew what he's doing and decided to do it anyways. I don't take pleasure in his death, but that's war. Ideally they'd take him POW, but that's kinda hard to do in contested areas.
At that point, the only other options are to let the man suffer or allow him to be evac'd by Russians and shoot at you again.
What a terrible waste of human life.
Everybody deserves a happy and fulfilled life. Not slowly dying alone in a dirty hole for absolutely nothing - led there by lies and propaganda from people who should take care of them, not waste them.
It's just sad.
It's sad, yes, but I hope it was more of a coup de grace than anything else.
Not a bad way to go, compared to bleeding out slowly with no pain meds.
why the downvotes though? he could have stayed home.
Tankies are downvoting everything here by default, it’s a tradition.
These guys are conscripts, do you really think they want to be there?
Do I have to give a single fuck? They came to destroy my home, my country. They will all burn. Every single one of them that crossed the border.
Propaganda is a helluva drug. One could make a pretty solid argument that it's killed more than all actual drugs combined. 🤷🏼♂️ I'm not implying anything about this man's former beliefs or reasons for being there, only that those that deserve that grenade the most are pushing that propaganda and haven't set for on any battlefield (nor will they).
Why should I differ one from another, judge them by the evils they made or could have made, bother myself with moral choices? They came to destroy my home, my country. They will all burn. Every single one of them that crossed the border.
And I don't question that for a second, please understand.
It's the people we've left that aren't part of that, I'm concerned with. I know that you're not wrong in any way — and I'd feel the same, were I in your shoes, frankly. You're completely correct. My point is not with those that are dying on any side, but those that are pulling the strings, calling the shots, from their safe places of privilege. They never seem to pay the price of their actions. No. We do.
When it comes to it, I only hope we see the truth of it then: we've been the ones to lose, on every front. The vast majority of us are not different in any real way, and the ways we are, they exploit. We've been dying for them for centuries, over and over and over again.
We're "heroes". We're "essential". We're who they'd be nothing without, but we throw ourselves and those that come after into the fires for them.
When do we say enough is enough? When does it stop?
In another way: can you - or anyone, name a blue-collar citizen anywhere that incited death like this, on a whim? Rhetorical, maybe, but I'll wait. Meanwhile, we're dying and they're laughing all the way to the bank.
As always.
That's not an option for the common soldier. Welcome to Russia.
Do I have to give a single fuck? They came to destroy my home, my country. They will all burn. Every single one of them crossed the border.
This is what happens when you fight for fascists. Should have stayed home
Like he had a choice..
Surrender is a choice
As far as the propaganda goes, it's not
Not when it comes to Russia
You always have choices. Always.
For centuries citizens of various countries hadn't a choice and had to fight russian oppressors except for russians themselves who always comply with all the shit they are told to do. This nation is beyond any rescue.
RIP
And TEAR
Until it is done.
I'm sure you can relate deeply.
That's grim.
I've watched a bunch of combat footage but I'm not a fan here. Not of the video, but of the action. Yes he's an invader and UA has a right to defense and to kill invaders and defend their home and I fully support them. But this guy is obviously not combat effective. He's half dead already. His arm is fucked up and he's not gonna be shooting anyone. So killing him for the hell of it feels fucking cold.
Seems like bad strategy too. Let him live and it'll take 2-3 soldiers to evac him, and that's 2-3 soldiers not fighting that day. Plus it's good PR to let enemy wounded get evac'd shows that you are the good guys.
More like wait for 2-3 soldiers to evac him and then bomb the shit out all of them. That's 2-3 soldiers not fighting ever again.
True, ideally there should be a safe way to surrender without fear of ambush on either side. Collect POW.
Optimistic of you to assume anyone was going to evac him.
The best part is he had some time to regret being on the wrong side of a country that's historically always a scum.
This is actually fucked up. I can't imagine getting off on watching a guy die purely to watch them die. Keep this shit to other subs IMO.
It's beyond being pissed and reveling in someones suffering. Pretty fucked up evil shit.
Eh, I don't really give a fuck about Russian combatants getting blown up at this stage of the war.
Maybe at the beginning of the war when their soldiers didn't realize they're being shipped to Ukraine, sure.
But at this point, this man knew what he's doing and decided to do it anyways. I don't take pleasure in his death, but that's war. Ideally they'd take him POW, but that's kinda hard to do in contested areas.
At that point, the only other options are to let the man suffer or allow him to be evac'd by Russians and shoot at you again.
Looks like Christ didn't save him HAHA
Christ sent him a grenade