Nah this time he’s learning his lesson. We all really believe that.
Yes, yes. Now let's put on our bikinis and head to the senate floor!
~the ever furrowed brow of Susan Collins
So. You’d be willing to take a bet on that? The wager Being your favorite pet photo, on c/awww or the relevant community for it?
I wouldn’t even bet half a hydrogen atom on that cheeto pudding ever doing something genuinely good.
That being said, if I ever get a dog (and I hope I will), it will definitely make a few appearances on the relevant communities. :)
Can’t blame a guy for trying, lol.
Trump is capable of doing good. It just has to benefit him and be about him and for him and consequently good by accident.
The bet you’re looking for is Trump being selfless. This is a characteristic he lacks and could never be capable of doing.
I have an 8th grade education and can barely read. He's fighting for me because he cares!
He's going to act presidential any day now! /s
Maybe he needs some new things to write notes and lists on the back of after the mean old FBI seized all his notepaper just because they were classified documents.
I just really can't see our corrupt as hell Supreme Court siding with the law on this one. Or most others, but this one too.
On the 14th part I agree.
On the judges order, assuming he violates it and she sanctions him in some way (fines or a night or two in jail is common for comtempt), I doubt he'd be able to appeal that. But I'm not a lawyer, just someone with a criminal past whose taken a few business law classes.
Threats and intimidation are already banned. Why do we need a court order to cover what the law already covers? Lock this piece of shit up already.
I agree. And strangely enough, it seems that Trump's lawyer kind of agrees too. (i.e., they say the order is not necessary because there are already laws against those things - obviously they don't say that Trump should be locked up though!)
I have heard someone justify the court order in a way that kind of makes sense to me though. The rough idea is that although there are laws against threats and intimidation, any incident of those would have to be prosecuted separately from this current case. It would basically require a new case to started, with another prosecutor etc. and in the end, that case may or may not result in a victory. All that can still happen; but the benefit of the court order is that if Trump continues the threats and intimidation, then the judge can immediately hold him in contempt of court without having any additional steps. So, it may make the process faster and easier.
All that said, I'm giving you my non-expert recollection of something I read from some random person on the internet who probably is also a non-expert. So it's probably best eaten with a barrel of salt; or possibly not at all.
All right buddy, that's it. No more committing felonies right in front of everyone. This is your eleventh warning and your fourth final warning, if you keep on blatantly committing crimes in a way that exposes our absolute farce of a justice system to the cattlepoors people I'll have no choice but to ask you again to stop doing that. You're embarrassing us in front of the other aristocrats, it's unseemly.
Yeah that'll do it I'm sure...
Trump ordered to not commit crimes. Got it
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In the first major lawsuit to block Donald Trump from Colorado’s 2024 presidential ballot, a state judge issued a protective order prohibiting threats and intimidation in the case, according to AP.
“I 100 percent understand everybody’s concerns for the parties, the lawyers, and frankly myself and my staff based on what we’ve seen in other cases,” Denver District Judge Sarah B. Wallace said, noting that the safety of witnesses and others involved in the suit was necessary throughout the litigation.
The suit was filed by watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated Colorado voters seeking to disqualify Trump from the primary ballot under a provision of the 14th Amendment that bars certain candidates who have engaged in insurrection.
Scott Gessler, a former Colorado secretary of state representing Trump, opposed the order and claimed it was unnecessary because threats and intimidation are already prohibited by law, per AP.
Trump, the first former president to be charged with state or federal crimes, was indicted in August over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election and an anti-democratic campaign that culminated in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.
The Colorado case is the first filed by an organization backed with significant legal resources and is expected to reach the U.S. Supreme Court, which has yet to rule on the 14th Amendment’s insurrection provision.
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People seem to have very distinct ideas on this court order.
What is a court order? It's basically a paper from the judge telling ppl what to do.
Why was this issued? A lot of statements trump made while the case is ongoing seemed inflammatory to the witnesses in one way or another, and the prosecution didn't like that. The court agreed.
So what happens now? Well as people rightfully pointed out, in itself this is just a paper. It's like a note from you parents telling you "don't steal sweets from the bowl while we're on vacation!". It's whole useless in absence of the court. But - if you ever pulled that, your parents were very angry afterwards and probably punished you in some way. Well now imagine that with a court and an ongoing legal process, and the punishment includes a range of actions against the defendant and his case. I think (not sure) this includes things up to incarceration for violation of court order in conjunction with witness tampering or even intimidation.
TL;DR the order itself is useless but if he violates it, gloves are off, punishments are on the table and his case might be in jeopardy.
P.S. never underestimate the instruments a pissed judge can play. His lawyers WILL know that.
TL;DR the order itself is useless but if he violates it, gloves are off
And what exactly do you imagine a state court in Colorado is going to do when the gloves come off? Will they issue a warrant for his arrest the next time he comes to the state? Summarily rule against him in the case? Issue a fine? I would be shocked if the judge did any of these. Trump's been threatening and intimidating judges, juries, and witnesses for his whole life. No one has so much as smacked his knuckles with a ruler for it so far.
Yeah this is more of a notice "If you keep doing this we'll take action, this is your last warning".
These orders are bullshit. Throw this shitstain in jail.
Let's get him into prison, stat.
Hope long until Trump rants on Truth Social that forbidding him from making threats or intimidating witnesses is a violation of his First Amendment rights?
Is it yesterday yet?
Shocking.
Article mostly rehashes stuff we already know, without any details on the actual headline
.... again?
This guy collecting them or something?
Nah this time he’s learning his lesson. We all really believe that.
Yes, yes. Now let's put on our bikinis and head to the senate floor!
~the ever furrowed brow of Susan Collins
So. You’d be willing to take a bet on that? The wager Being your favorite pet photo, on c/awww or the relevant community for it?
I wouldn’t even bet half a hydrogen atom on that cheeto pudding ever doing something genuinely good.
That being said, if I ever get a dog (and I hope I will), it will definitely make a few appearances on the relevant communities. :)
Can’t blame a guy for trying, lol.
Trump is capable of doing good. It just has to benefit him and be about him and for him and consequently good by accident.
The bet you’re looking for is Trump being selfless. This is a characteristic he lacks and could never be capable of doing.
I have an 8th grade education and can barely read. He's fighting for me because he cares!
He's going to act presidential any day now! /s
Maybe he needs some new things to write notes and lists on the back of after the mean old FBI seized all his notepaper just because they were classified documents.
fucking lock him up already
Nah. Make him a martyr already. Get it over with.
I just really can't see our corrupt as hell Supreme Court siding with the law on this one. Or most others, but this one too.
On the 14th part I agree.
On the judges order, assuming he violates it and she sanctions him in some way (fines or a night or two in jail is common for comtempt), I doubt he'd be able to appeal that. But I'm not a lawyer, just someone with a criminal past whose taken a few business law classes.
Threats and intimidation are already banned. Why do we need a court order to cover what the law already covers? Lock this piece of shit up already.
I agree. And strangely enough, it seems that Trump's lawyer kind of agrees too. (i.e., they say the order is not necessary because there are already laws against those things - obviously they don't say that Trump should be locked up though!)
I have heard someone justify the court order in a way that kind of makes sense to me though. The rough idea is that although there are laws against threats and intimidation, any incident of those would have to be prosecuted separately from this current case. It would basically require a new case to started, with another prosecutor etc. and in the end, that case may or may not result in a victory. All that can still happen; but the benefit of the court order is that if Trump continues the threats and intimidation, then the judge can immediately hold him in contempt of court without having any additional steps. So, it may make the process faster and easier.
All that said, I'm giving you my non-expert recollection of something I read from some random person on the internet who probably is also a non-expert. So it's probably best eaten with a barrel of salt; or possibly not at all.
Yeah that'll do it I'm sure...
Trump ordered to not commit crimes. Got it
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In the first major lawsuit to block Donald Trump from Colorado’s 2024 presidential ballot, a state judge issued a protective order prohibiting threats and intimidation in the case, according to AP.
“I 100 percent understand everybody’s concerns for the parties, the lawyers, and frankly myself and my staff based on what we’ve seen in other cases,” Denver District Judge Sarah B. Wallace said, noting that the safety of witnesses and others involved in the suit was necessary throughout the litigation.
The suit was filed by watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington on behalf of six Republican and unaffiliated Colorado voters seeking to disqualify Trump from the primary ballot under a provision of the 14th Amendment that bars certain candidates who have engaged in insurrection.
Scott Gessler, a former Colorado secretary of state representing Trump, opposed the order and claimed it was unnecessary because threats and intimidation are already prohibited by law, per AP.
Trump, the first former president to be charged with state or federal crimes, was indicted in August over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election and an anti-democratic campaign that culminated in the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.
The Colorado case is the first filed by an organization backed with significant legal resources and is expected to reach the U.S. Supreme Court, which has yet to rule on the 14th Amendment’s insurrection provision.
The original article contains 310 words, the summary contains 224 words. Saved 28%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
People seem to have very distinct ideas on this court order.
What is a court order? It's basically a paper from the judge telling ppl what to do.
Why was this issued? A lot of statements trump made while the case is ongoing seemed inflammatory to the witnesses in one way or another, and the prosecution didn't like that. The court agreed.
So what happens now? Well as people rightfully pointed out, in itself this is just a paper. It's like a note from you parents telling you "don't steal sweets from the bowl while we're on vacation!". It's whole useless in absence of the court. But - if you ever pulled that, your parents were very angry afterwards and probably punished you in some way. Well now imagine that with a court and an ongoing legal process, and the punishment includes a range of actions against the defendant and his case. I think (not sure) this includes things up to incarceration for violation of court order in conjunction with witness tampering or even intimidation.
TL;DR the order itself is useless but if he violates it, gloves are off, punishments are on the table and his case might be in jeopardy.
P.S. never underestimate the instruments a pissed judge can play. His lawyers WILL know that.
And what exactly do you imagine a state court in Colorado is going to do when the gloves come off? Will they issue a warrant for his arrest the next time he comes to the state? Summarily rule against him in the case? Issue a fine? I would be shocked if the judge did any of these. Trump's been threatening and intimidating judges, juries, and witnesses for his whole life. No one has so much as smacked his knuckles with a ruler for it so far.
Yeah this is more of a notice "If you keep doing this we'll take action, this is your last warning".
These orders are bullshit. Throw this shitstain in jail.
Let's get him into prison, stat.
Hope long until Trump rants on Truth Social that forbidding him from making threats or intimidating witnesses is a violation of his First Amendment rights?
Is it yesterday yet?
Shocking.
Article mostly rehashes stuff we already know, without any details on the actual headline
Oh! Well that will definitely do it!