Proposed initiative would remove 'Right to Work' statute from Arizona Constitution

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Unions should be mandatory for all career fields.

I’m not sure we can legally force people to join unions.

You can legally force people to do anything. That's how government works. But that's besides the point. Unionization is better for both members of the union and non-members since it raises the floor

I am very much pro union It’s just that this suggestion gives me a little pause.

It’s one thing to make a worksite a union shop, but I don’t know. Forcing people to join a union in order to have a job just raises a red flag for me. I need time to mull it over before I have a real opinion on it.

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Unions are useful for a lot of fields, but once you get into fields that are highly specialized they only get in the way.

When a company relies on a small team of difficult to replace experts for the majority of their revenue, they either treat their employees well or they go out of business. A union in that situation serves no purpose.

Back when I was younger and worked regular jobs, I would have loved to join a union. Now? No way. A union would decrease my bargaining power.

Lmao bullshit. A Union is literally an equalizer when it comes to bargaining power. It's why they were created in the first place. You claim that being specialized in a field automatically makes you immune to wage stagnation, but if you as a worker(even in a specialized field) are dealing with a monopsony, you are fucked.

Oftentimes being in a specialized field is a double edged sword for your own wage too. Sure, there's not many of you for them to hire, but also there's not many of them for you to go to and if you piss any of them off, you're screwed out of any future job.

Making a union even more important I think.

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Right to work states are generally at the bottom of most statistics

Oh come on, we're top of the list for diabetes, cancer, liver disease, illiteracy, excess deaths, shootings, percentage of citizens who will never hold a college degree, and cheapest labour. USA, USA!

I've always said if you don't like the union you've got the right to work, somewhere the fuck else.

why does that initiative “only” need 383k signatures when the abortion initiative needs 600k? i’m assuming they don’t already have 220k signatures to explain the offset

Man what a shit article. No links, no details, no preamble