Prigozhin posted a series of angry video and audio recordings in which he accused Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu of ordering a rocket strike Friday on Wagner’s field camps in Ukraine, where his troops are fighting on behalf of Russia.
Prigozhin said his troops would now punish Shoigu in an armed rebellion and urged the army not to offer resistance.
”This is not a military coup, but a march of justice,” Prigozhin declared.
I guess it has to be said, are the videos authentic? I haven't seen anyone in the media outlets question the veracity or claim the they have been determined to be genuine.
If they are, this is a weird fucking twist and I can only believe the Prigozshin feels that the Russian regulars are so weakened and separated that he has the ability to extract whatever justice* he feels he is due. But, also, did he have a gay lover who was killed in that missile strike? That's the only reason I can think that he would march to extract revenge without just being clear that he's planning to take over the country.
Well well, this is getting more interesting. Still not sure how this will play out. Mark Galeotti’s excellent book Putin’s Wars mentions several wannabe warlords whose escapades came to quick and bloody ends at the hands of Russian special forces or the FSB.
I’m actually a bit surprised Comrade Shitheel Prigozhin hasn’t met the same fate. Perhaps his Wagner wall of meat is still seen as having service to render to the Kremlin.
I don’t at all see Prigozhin as a leadership threat to Putin, but I like that he and Strelkov and Kadyrov are all busy trying to one up each other’s stupidity. I’m all for it as long as it hastens Russia’s battlefield defeat. If it leads to Russia’s decolonization, all the better.
Didn't the Russian special forces suffer a pretty big set-back when trying to land in some Ukrainian airfield back at the start?
His arrest? I thought this was the point where they'd try to kill him
No, they're going to arrest him, but he shot himself twice in the back of the head and fell 5 stories before they could move in with the cuffs.
This joke will never get old
Just like Russian journalists!
The plot thickens! We will be watching his career with great interest.
:popcorn:
I honestly don't know if I believe any of this. It could be one big distraction, and I think the people in high positions of power are skeptical as well.
Wagner Group are literal Nazis, so... Let Them Fight, I guess?
i mean, russia army aren't so different, so let them fight
If not psy-ops, looks like a long night ahead for russia…
Russian state associated media has confirmed it.
That doesn't mean a lot.
They don't have much of a working relationship with the truth.
I think it's probably safe to say that if the Russian state media says the FSB want to arrest him, then the FSB probably do want to arrest him.
Do you have a link?
This is one example, but there is reportedly an official arrest order for him: https://www.rt.com/russia/578550-russian-general-message-wagner/
AP is pretty reliable. https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-war-russia-nuclear-647a545db4e4628676ff7db5b1bded34
I guess it has to be said, are the videos authentic? I haven't seen anyone in the media outlets question the veracity or claim the they have been determined to be genuine.
If they are, this is a weird fucking twist and I can only believe the Prigozshin feels that the Russian regulars are so weakened and separated that he has the ability to extract whatever justice* he feels he is due. But, also, did he have a gay lover who was killed in that missile strike? That's the only reason I can think that he would march to extract revenge without just being clear that he's planning to take over the country.
Well well, this is getting more interesting. Still not sure how this will play out. Mark Galeotti’s excellent book Putin’s Wars mentions several wannabe warlords whose escapades came to quick and bloody ends at the hands of Russian special forces or the FSB.
I’m actually a bit surprised Comrade Shitheel Prigozhin hasn’t met the same fate. Perhaps his Wagner wall of meat is still seen as having service to render to the Kremlin.
I don’t at all see Prigozhin as a leadership threat to Putin, but I like that he and Strelkov and Kadyrov are all busy trying to one up each other’s stupidity. I’m all for it as long as it hastens Russia’s battlefield defeat. If it leads to Russia’s decolonization, all the better.
Didn't the Russian special forces suffer a pretty big set-back when trying to land in some Ukrainian airfield back at the start?
Speaking of which, this is a fascinating project.
https://russiadecolonized.com/
His arrest? I thought this was the point where they'd try to kill him
No, they're going to arrest him, but he shot himself twice in the back of the head and fell 5 stories before they could move in with the cuffs.
This joke will never get old
Just like Russian journalists!
The plot thickens! We will be watching his career with great interest.
:popcorn:
I honestly don't know if I believe any of this. It could be one big distraction, and I think the people in high positions of power are skeptical as well.
At least 1 US official said “it’s real” still need to question it though. Russia lies so much.
It is not like US officials are respected for telling the truth.
Fog of war over Ukraine is really thick. I belive no one until it ends.
US officials also claimed that Russiagate was real and Hunter Biden's laptop was fake. They have less than no credibility.
I hate the US as much as anyone, but your argument is that they were correct about two out of two listed events, so they have no credibility?
it wasn't?
facts
Spicy. Ukraine's counteroffensive is getting better by the day.
Would love to see a vacant hole that Ukraine can use to take back what Russia stole.
Well so much for the “authorized by the Kremlin” idea.
Wonder how the rebels at Belgrod will react to this.