I'm looking to never have to use Google Maps.
Is OsmAnd+ the best?
lots of people will comment about organic maps
It’s actually really good. I just wish the maps were as up to date as the big three (Waze, Apple, google). It would be awesome if each city, state was required to publish map data to openstreetmaps. I know my city has everything in arcgis and you can browse it. But they should definitely publish to openstreetmaps.
I have found OSM data (and therefore Organic Maps) more up to date than the others, at least for roads. In the past six months for me that was three different cities, and two different countries. Small sample size, but including my city there were several places that google had not updated for years.
As for your city to OSM integration: OSM does not take data dumps. But your city could encourage people to update the data in OSM or better still leverage OSM as a data truth and curate it, and load ArcGIS datastores from it.
You can help using Street Complete which is a very easy to use android app that fills in the details of whereever you are at: Is this road paved? What are the business hours here? Is there street lighting? etc.
street complete is awesome
Saying Waze and Google in the same phrase is, unfortunately, redundant
Even though they're governed by the same entity, they function quite differently from each other.
+1 for organic maps
Like the kind you fold up?
Into a swan.
OsmAnd+ the best
That's what I use. Some may get too overwhelmed with the feature set it has, so Organic Maps would be a more basic nav app.
But... OsmAnd+ is far more advanced than Google Maps, and can be customized every which way.
Another bonus: You'll never see ads masquerading as POIs on a map.😀
Any way to get live traffic? I'm not finding anything very useful online
For live traffic, try Magic Earth. I haven't used it in a while, but it's another alternative to consider. :)
Thanks. It's been about a year since I've tried this one. Just grabbed it again. Trying to find alternatives for when I 'de-google' my life. Hopefully sooner than later
Not for Route calculation. But you can use the googlemaps interface as an overlay.
Google maps actually works ok with Play services Internet access blocked. And it has local downloadable maps now. I prefer Organic Maps on principle and use it when I can, but sometimes resort to Google maps. I've never liked Osmand since I've found it confusing.
Organic Maps serves me well
okay I just tried it. lol. How does it serve you well? It is absolutely useless. seriously.. please explain.
anyone doubting me, go install it and try it out for yourself. You will see how useless it is. You put in a valid address and it says "no results found." It has literally nothing. except it encourages you to download an entire map of an entire huge city for 220 MB. Why? Why is the only option it offers to download a huge data-heavy city and it won't even take me to a simple address?
Of course you have to download the map ypu wanna use, duh. Plus I live in a third world country and it has everything so far including adresses and it works even for coordinates
It was interesting trying to give Organic Maps a college try. In the US it seems about useless, even after downloading all 50 states. One can get navigation to work to the city or street (but not the address) at the destination, but it seems the easiest way to plot a destination is to just physically zoom in and find it on the map and tell it to navigate to that location. It seems incapable of looking up addresses, which makes one wonder if they're somehow missing from the base mapping data, or if the application just doesn't have the "smarts" to query addresses in certain countries correctly.
I've used all sorts of GPS mapping software over the years both on dedicated hardware, computers, etc. including the more arcane that have you start at street number or zip code and then drill down layer by layer so the backing software doesn't have to work so hard. This is the first I've seen that doesn't seem to have the ability to find simple street addresses.
It could be that in countries that it's popular, the base mapping data works better.
Maps.me (albeit, they seem to not be as good as they once were) and Here WeGo (which is an ex-Nokia commercial property that for some reason is free to use offline? So you're probably the product.) both seem to do a better job at both addresses and mapping routes that make sense. I agree with solrize@solrize@lemmy.world that Osmand seems very the opposite of user friendly.
That's interesting, Organic Maps is ok for navigating to addresses when I use it. Are you sure you have the right maps? There is a high level overview map of the US, but then there are a lot of more localized ones for the individual states and some other regions. You just enter the address into the search bar and press "route to". It has a few annoyances and the voice instructions don't give you the street names (just "turn left in 300 meters" instead of "turn left on Elm Street in 300 meters"). I would say it not as good as google maps, but it is mostly ok. I use google maps as a fallback when I have to.
I have been using MapFactor Navigator for decades already. It uses OSM for maps (or Tomtom maps, if you want to go commercial), and you can configure every aspect of the navigation; you can completely geek out on it, if you want.
YMMV honestly. It depends on where you live. If your city is mapped out well, OsmAnd+ will work for you. For me, unfortunately Google Maps still works far far better than anything else I've tried :(
Best one I've found with real time traffic is HereWeGo and it's just... OK. If anyone knows of a better one for a privacy respecting traffic maps please let me know.
This one... Doesn't seem so bad, privacy wise. It can be also used offline, afaik.
It's been a while since I've had this one. Going to try it out again. Thanks
It used to be better. They rewrote it a while back and made it not as good.
MagicEarth is decent, I've not had any luck with osmand or organic maps.
Waze for me unfortunately owned by Google tho. Doesn't require play services
lots of people will comment about organic maps
It’s actually really good. I just wish the maps were as up to date as the big three (Waze, Apple, google). It would be awesome if each city, state was required to publish map data to openstreetmaps. I know my city has everything in arcgis and you can browse it. But they should definitely publish to openstreetmaps.
I have found OSM data (and therefore Organic Maps) more up to date than the others, at least for roads. In the past six months for me that was three different cities, and two different countries. Small sample size, but including my city there were several places that google had not updated for years.
As for your city to OSM integration: OSM does not take data dumps. But your city could encourage people to update the data in OSM or better still leverage OSM as a data truth and curate it, and load ArcGIS datastores from it.
You can help using Street Complete which is a very easy to use android app that fills in the details of whereever you are at: Is this road paved? What are the business hours here? Is there street lighting? etc.
street complete is awesome
Saying Waze and Google in the same phrase is, unfortunately, redundant
Even though they're governed by the same entity, they function quite differently from each other.
+1 for organic maps
Like the kind you fold up?
Into a swan.
That's what I use. Some may get too overwhelmed with the feature set it has, so Organic Maps would be a more basic nav app.
But... OsmAnd+ is far more advanced than Google Maps, and can be customized every which way.
Another bonus: You'll never see ads masquerading as POIs on a map.😀
Any way to get live traffic? I'm not finding anything very useful online
For live traffic, try Magic Earth. I haven't used it in a while, but it's another alternative to consider. :)
Thanks. It's been about a year since I've tried this one. Just grabbed it again. Trying to find alternatives for when I 'de-google' my life. Hopefully sooner than later
Not for Route calculation. But you can use the googlemaps interface as an overlay.
https://hoerli.net/osmand-google-traffic-anzeigen/ It's German, but the pictures should be enough.
Thanks. I'll check that out
I use Magic Earth, it has the best UI IMO.
Google maps actually works ok with Play services Internet access blocked. And it has local downloadable maps now. I prefer Organic Maps on principle and use it when I can, but sometimes resort to Google maps. I've never liked Osmand since I've found it confusing.
Organic Maps serves me well
okay I just tried it. lol. How does it serve you well? It is absolutely useless. seriously.. please explain.
anyone doubting me, go install it and try it out for yourself. You will see how useless it is. You put in a valid address and it says "no results found." It has literally nothing. except it encourages you to download an entire map of an entire huge city for 220 MB. Why? Why is the only option it offers to download a huge data-heavy city and it won't even take me to a simple address?
Of course you have to download the map ypu wanna use, duh. Plus I live in a third world country and it has everything so far including adresses and it works even for coordinates
It was interesting trying to give Organic Maps a college try. In the US it seems about useless, even after downloading all 50 states. One can get navigation to work to the city or street (but not the address) at the destination, but it seems the easiest way to plot a destination is to just physically zoom in and find it on the map and tell it to navigate to that location. It seems incapable of looking up addresses, which makes one wonder if they're somehow missing from the base mapping data, or if the application just doesn't have the "smarts" to query addresses in certain countries correctly.
I've used all sorts of GPS mapping software over the years both on dedicated hardware, computers, etc. including the more arcane that have you start at street number or zip code and then drill down layer by layer so the backing software doesn't have to work so hard. This is the first I've seen that doesn't seem to have the ability to find simple street addresses.
It could be that in countries that it's popular, the base mapping data works better.
Maps.me (albeit, they seem to not be as good as they once were) and Here WeGo (which is an ex-Nokia commercial property that for some reason is free to use offline? So you're probably the product.) both seem to do a better job at both addresses and mapping routes that make sense. I agree with solrize@solrize@lemmy.world that Osmand seems very the opposite of user friendly.
That's interesting, Organic Maps is ok for navigating to addresses when I use it. Are you sure you have the right maps? There is a high level overview map of the US, but then there are a lot of more localized ones for the individual states and some other regions. You just enter the address into the search bar and press "route to". It has a few annoyances and the voice instructions don't give you the street names (just "turn left in 300 meters" instead of "turn left on Elm Street in 300 meters"). I would say it not as good as google maps, but it is mostly ok. I use google maps as a fallback when I have to.
I have been using MapFactor Navigator for decades already. It uses OSM for maps (or Tomtom maps, if you want to go commercial), and you can configure every aspect of the navigation; you can completely geek out on it, if you want.
Not affiliated at all, just a happy user.
YMMV honestly. It depends on where you live. If your city is mapped out well, OsmAnd+ will work for you. For me, unfortunately Google Maps still works far far better than anything else I've tried :(
Best one I've found with real time traffic is HereWeGo and it's just... OK. If anyone knows of a better one for a privacy respecting traffic maps please let me know.
This one... Doesn't seem so bad, privacy wise. It can be also used offline, afaik.
It's been a while since I've had this one. Going to try it out again. Thanks
It used to be better. They rewrote it a while back and made it not as good.
MagicEarth is decent, I've not had any luck with osmand or organic maps.
Waze for me unfortunately owned by Google tho. Doesn't require play services