On the religion side the last picture should be the same as the first.
That was the original. Evolution of the meme:
In retrospect I should've posted the second image, seems funnier.
Should have posted version 1's science timeline with your own religion timeline
Atheists be like "look at all the things my real and not made up methodology can do" and then post science fiction.
Today's engineering is the past century's science fiction.
We have hoverboards, and they don't hover. We have jetpacks, but they run on water and need a hose. Our ray guns are only useful for blinding pilots. Our AI doesn't even have a robot body, and it starts repeating itself with shocking speed. We pretty much gave up on going to space anymore, except for a Nazi who has a grudge against trans people because his daughter won't speak to him.
Our engineering is disappointing because the rate of innovation is slowing down, and it's slowing because all the low hanging fruit is already picked. It's taking more and more resources to continue at the same speed of innovation. You can't just have an apple hit your head and discover gravity anymore, innovations in theoretical physics require supercolliders and deep space telescopes.
The good news, though, is there's plenty of low hanging fruit in psychonautics. So that's the science I'm interested in. Unfortunately, y'all atheists don't believe in magic so you're missing out on a whole scientific field. You won't mix science and religion, so you can't innovate as much.
Thanks, you've just convinced me that internet was a mistake.
Psychonautics has existed as a known research field longer than the internet has been around, and there's a strong argument to make that it's fundamental, just like physics or math. Ancient Tibetan monks were doing psychonautics, and they laid the groundwork for modern parogenetic techniques.
I haven't checked it out and I'd be open to review the evidence in its favor, the reason behind my comment was this:
Unfortunately, y’all atheists don’t believe in magic (...) You won’t mix science and religion, so you can’t innovate as much
By definition, if something is observed to behave according to logical laws, it is not supernatural, and therefore not magic. Religion by definition requires faith, and if you're using faith specifically for your scientific endeavors, you're doing science wrong.
Religion by definition requires faith, and if you're using faith specifically for your scientific endeavors, you're doing science wrong.
That's categorically untrue. Science has conclusively demonstrated the existence of the placebo effect, which is powered by faith. People believe they will get better, even when evidence does not exist, even when they know they're in an experiment with a control group, and they get better. That's faith. Faith is such a huge factor that any pharmaceutical trial must control for it with a placebo control group. Scientists spend a great deal of time and money determining which medicines work because of faith, and which ones work because of chemistry.
The effects of faith upon our reality are scientifically quantifiable, predictable, and controllable. Faith is a tool in the scientist's toolbelt, just like instruments, drugs, computers, or anything else. Psychonautics can essentially be viewed as the science of faith, and other such reality-altering mental constructs.
I'm going to be charitable and assume that you're describing faith as something that may be studied by science, which I have no issues with.
If you think faith is required at any point of the methodology of the scientific method, you should go back to middle school.
I'm a degree holding scientist, and I think in drug trials it's absolutely essential that you make the subjects feel faith that your control treatment will heal them. Faith, of course, defined as a belief held without evidence. If you fail to make the control group feel faith, then you're not actually controlling against faith and you cannot predict the effectiveness of your drug in comparison with a placebo. You need to control for faith just like you control for any other physical quality that can act as a variable.
No it isn't lol. You can tangibly observe, experiment, and interact with the placebo effect/pharmaceuticals. There is a literal method that is used to prove things like the placebo effect.
Faith (from the religious understanding) is for that which can't be proven, thus antithetical to science. And before I hear something bogus like "faith in the method": that method has proven itself millions of times over with physical tangible proof.
Hell if you Google the definition of faith the second one is literally "strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof."
Faith (from the religious understanding) is for that which can't be proven,
Why would I accept a religious definition of faith? I'm a scientist, and I use a scientific definition of faith. I categorically reject your attempts to force religious understanding of faith on me.
Atheists be like "look at all the things my real and not made up methodology can do" and then post science fiction.
Your comment is at odds with your other comments. And you'd think a scientist would know about the scientific measurements of the placebo effect rather than boiling it down to faith: which is asinine.
You're seeing contradictions because you're not actually trying to understand what I'm saying. You're just using keywords to sort me into a category you already understand. I criticise atheists, so you sort me into the evangelical Christian box and attach all the stereotypes of that image to me. Then I say I'm a scientist and you get confused.
You didn't bother learning, you just deployed prejudice. I'm using prejudice here in the neutral psychological sense of "pre judgement". You made a bunch of premature judgements about my beliefs. You should try a science based approach to understanding other people instead of just making assumptions. You'll stop being confused by my existence if you use science.
Like, for example, earlier you formed a hypothesis that I'm not a scientist, because I criticise atheists. That hypothesis turned out to be false. That means you should be revising your theory and running more tests. You shouldn't just complain about it and refuse to change when your hypotheses are false.
Plot twist: God sent the scientists to make the bionic arm
one time in middle school i prayed for an xbox and a couple weeks later a boy who had a crush on me (but i didnt know that at the time) gave me his old original xbox and fable: tlc as he upgraded to a newer xbox. so ya religion is pretty nifty 😎
i also prayed that my school would burn down in the middle of the night multiple times but that never happened but at least i had an xbox
I've been praying Jesus would just fuck Satan and get it over with. The sexual tension is way too high.
they should take inspiration from all the fan fiction of Good Omens!
What do you really think was going down there before the 3rd day?
I think god is just handing out Xboxes instead of granting prayers
now that u mention it i can't think of a single other prayer i ever made getting answered so you might be right
maybe god is just sponsored by microsoft (this existence brought to you by: Xbox Game Pass)
That isn't how religion works though.
You just got to steal the xbox, then pray for forgiveness.
i've had my eye on the Steam Deck lately, will keep this in mind 🤔
You could just convince the pope to call for a holy war, that way you don't even have to ask for forgiveness when you take a nonbeliever's steam desk.
well my bf is catholic so that gives me an in
He knew you wanted a xbox because he was stalking you.
So romantic <3
lol i honestly never thought about that
we went to a really small school (when i was in middle school there were like 15 students in the middle school and high school grades all combined, by the time i was in 12th there were 4 high school students all in different grades) so if i had to guess and give him the benefit of the doubt i'd guess that because we lived in such a small community and probably had a lot of mutual friends and connections, he probably just knew enough about me to know that i was into video games and my family was too poor to buy consoles/computers so i was still playing on a PS1 that my older siblings got for Christmas once while everyone else my age were on or moving to PS4 and (i think) Xbox One
Homie, there's literally a game called God Hand and you chose DmC smh.
Uh oh, wrong God Hand.
wtf is that junji ito or smth
Berserk
No bro, that's Femto.
Berserk is the main character.
His side kick is Fuck.
Mentor and first lover Donovan.
And MVP Schnoz.
You deserve a good spanking for using "DmC" instead of "DMC". We do not talk about the abomination that is "DmC".
The next devil may cry game has the same character with a robot arm. Why not use that?
On the religion side the last picture should be the same as the first.
That was the original. Evolution of the meme:
In retrospect I should've posted the second image, seems funnier.
Should have posted version 1's science timeline with your own religion timeline
Atheists be like "look at all the things my real and not made up methodology can do" and then post science fiction.
Today's engineering is the past century's science fiction.
We have hoverboards, and they don't hover. We have jetpacks, but they run on water and need a hose. Our ray guns are only useful for blinding pilots. Our AI doesn't even have a robot body, and it starts repeating itself with shocking speed. We pretty much gave up on going to space anymore, except for a Nazi who has a grudge against trans people because his daughter won't speak to him.
Our engineering is disappointing because the rate of innovation is slowing down, and it's slowing because all the low hanging fruit is already picked. It's taking more and more resources to continue at the same speed of innovation. You can't just have an apple hit your head and discover gravity anymore, innovations in theoretical physics require supercolliders and deep space telescopes.
The good news, though, is there's plenty of low hanging fruit in psychonautics. So that's the science I'm interested in. Unfortunately, y'all atheists don't believe in magic so you're missing out on a whole scientific field. You won't mix science and religion, so you can't innovate as much.
Thanks, you've just convinced me that internet was a mistake.
Psychonautics has existed as a known research field longer than the internet has been around, and there's a strong argument to make that it's fundamental, just like physics or math. Ancient Tibetan monks were doing psychonautics, and they laid the groundwork for modern parogenetic techniques.
I haven't checked it out and I'd be open to review the evidence in its favor, the reason behind my comment was this:
By definition, if something is observed to behave according to logical laws, it is not supernatural, and therefore not magic. Religion by definition requires faith, and if you're using faith specifically for your scientific endeavors, you're doing science wrong.
That's categorically untrue. Science has conclusively demonstrated the existence of the placebo effect, which is powered by faith. People believe they will get better, even when evidence does not exist, even when they know they're in an experiment with a control group, and they get better. That's faith. Faith is such a huge factor that any pharmaceutical trial must control for it with a placebo control group. Scientists spend a great deal of time and money determining which medicines work because of faith, and which ones work because of chemistry.
The effects of faith upon our reality are scientifically quantifiable, predictable, and controllable. Faith is a tool in the scientist's toolbelt, just like instruments, drugs, computers, or anything else. Psychonautics can essentially be viewed as the science of faith, and other such reality-altering mental constructs.
I'm going to be charitable and assume that you're describing faith as something that may be studied by science, which I have no issues with.
If you think faith is required at any point of the methodology of the scientific method, you should go back to middle school.
I'm a degree holding scientist, and I think in drug trials it's absolutely essential that you make the subjects feel faith that your control treatment will heal them. Faith, of course, defined as a belief held without evidence. If you fail to make the control group feel faith, then you're not actually controlling against faith and you cannot predict the effectiveness of your drug in comparison with a placebo. You need to control for faith just like you control for any other physical quality that can act as a variable.
No it isn't lol. You can tangibly observe, experiment, and interact with the placebo effect/pharmaceuticals. There is a literal method that is used to prove things like the placebo effect.
Faith (from the religious understanding) is for that which can't be proven, thus antithetical to science. And before I hear something bogus like "faith in the method": that method has proven itself millions of times over with physical tangible proof.
Hell if you Google the definition of faith the second one is literally "strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof."
Why would I accept a religious definition of faith? I'm a scientist, and I use a scientific definition of faith. I categorically reject your attempts to force religious understanding of faith on me.
Your comment is at odds with your other comments. And you'd think a scientist would know about the scientific measurements of the placebo effect rather than boiling it down to faith: which is asinine.
You're seeing contradictions because you're not actually trying to understand what I'm saying. You're just using keywords to sort me into a category you already understand. I criticise atheists, so you sort me into the evangelical Christian box and attach all the stereotypes of that image to me. Then I say I'm a scientist and you get confused.
You didn't bother learning, you just deployed prejudice. I'm using prejudice here in the neutral psychological sense of "pre judgement". You made a bunch of premature judgements about my beliefs. You should try a science based approach to understanding other people instead of just making assumptions. You'll stop being confused by my existence if you use science.
Like, for example, earlier you formed a hypothesis that I'm not a scientist, because I criticise atheists. That hypothesis turned out to be false. That means you should be revising your theory and running more tests. You shouldn't just complain about it and refuse to change when your hypotheses are false.
Plot twist: God sent the scientists to make the bionic arm
God also removed the arm of the child though
That was Satan.
So God, through Satan.
one time in middle school i prayed for an xbox and a couple weeks later a boy who had a crush on me (but i didnt know that at the time) gave me his old original xbox and fable: tlc as he upgraded to a newer xbox. so ya religion is pretty nifty 😎
i also prayed that my school would burn down in the middle of the night multiple times but that never happened but at least i had an xbox
I've been praying Jesus would just fuck Satan and get it over with. The sexual tension is way too high.
they should take inspiration from all the fan fiction of Good Omens!
What do you really think was going down there before the 3rd day?
I think god is just handing out Xboxes instead of granting prayers
now that u mention it i can't think of a single other prayer i ever made getting answered so you might be right
maybe god is just sponsored by microsoft (this existence brought to you by: Xbox Game Pass)
That isn't how religion works though.
You just got to steal the xbox, then pray for forgiveness.
i've had my eye on the Steam Deck lately, will keep this in mind 🤔
You could just convince the pope to call for a holy war, that way you don't even have to ask for forgiveness when you take a nonbeliever's steam desk.
well my bf is catholic so that gives me an in
He knew you wanted a xbox because he was stalking you.
So romantic <3
lol i honestly never thought about that
we went to a really small school (when i was in middle school there were like 15 students in the middle school and high school grades all combined, by the time i was in 12th there were 4 high school students all in different grades) so if i had to guess and give him the benefit of the doubt i'd guess that because we lived in such a small community and probably had a lot of mutual friends and connections, he probably just knew enough about me to know that i was into video games and my family was too poor to buy consoles/computers so i was still playing on a PS1 that my older siblings got for Christmas once while everyone else my age were on or moving to PS4 and (i think) Xbox One
Homie, there's literally a game called God Hand and you chose DmC smh.
Uh oh, wrong God Hand.
wtf is that junji ito or smth
Berserk
No bro, that's Femto.
Berserk is the main character.
His side kick is Fuck.
Mentor and first lover Donovan.
And MVP Schnoz.
You deserve a good spanking for using "DmC" instead of "DMC". We do not talk about the abomination that is "DmC".
The next devil may cry game has the same character with a robot arm. Why not use that?
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