.... and the majority of the world just shrugs their collective shoulders ....
Meh, waddaya gonna do?
At this point, our collective indifference to these atrocities makes us complicit.
No I think the majority of the world is appalled at what Israel is doing. It's the governments being pressured by Zionist organisations and also the risk of losing the only western ally in the Middle East.
Governments today don't represent their people anymore. Not when most democracies are voting for the lesser of two evils all the time.
We have so many allies in the middle east. We have countries with larger bases and countries with more bases. There's no military reason to keep supporting Israel.
Calling Israel terrorists is actually an insult to the meaning of terrorism
This is what pure evil looks like. Pure genocide.
Jfc. :'(
If Isreal keeps this up I wouldn't be surprised if the neo-nazis start gaining traction again.
Germany just had one of it's largest marches because the Neo-Nazis, Conservative Party, and Nationalists where caught plotting to take over the government and take Germany back to being controlled by some nationalist nazi party
As if they aren't already
Terrible
That's how easy we could finish putin's war. Nope, instead some random people who are probably innocent or at least not doing anything other than talking and walking, instead they get the several million gifts.
This is going to be unpopular, but how do we know they're non-combatants? Just because they're unarmed at the moment the video is filmed, doesn't make the non-combatants, AFAIK.
We're basing this on the opinion of a a biased reporter, who wached the video and described what they saw?
Disclaimer, required around here:
Fuck Israeli Government.
Fuck Hamas.
If Israel brought out video evidence of these specific guys doing stuff before then I'd agree. But with their track record the burden is definitely on them to prove these guys were combatants they just happened to catch unaware.
I'm sure the Israeli government has a lot of their hands right now to comment on every twitter video posted by a person who's location is set to Gaza.
If this is actually a war crime, I hope the culprits are punished accordingly.
Other than that, I'm going to treat this as yet another twitter video, without context, cut to fit an agenda, with some blood-boiling comment.
They're welcome to send that proof to the NYT.
If you've ever seen a Hamas video they sneak through the opnenings in the sides of buildings. They certainly don't walk around in the open like this without worries.
The burden of evidence lies on israel, and just like that time they drone striked an ambulance, no evidence will be presented.
We can't deduce shit from a video like this, especially when it's just posted on "X" by a strongly biased source.
I'll wait for a credible source to report on this, twitter bullshit can stay in twitter.
That's an interesting way to deny video evidence.
For someone who is constantly getting their shit removed and banned for misinformation, you sure seem confident that this video is evidence of anything.
Unless you were there, or capable of identifying the people in this video- you can only admit that you know absolutely NOTHING about it.
Anything less is misinformation and/or opinion and should be dismissed as such.
Lmao, you have no idea what those words mean.
Yep, there is no context for this and heavy framing in the article. I agree with both of your Disclamers, but this is just propaganda.
The context is the HD video footage of the IDF drone striking obvious unarmed civilians.
Where's the context showing these people were enemy combatants deserving a death sentence by drone strike? Do you always take the "guilty until proven innocent" line, or is this a race thing?
And this is how you turn a conversation into a pile of shit.
By pointing to evidence to back my claim and asking for consistent standards and something vaguely resembling the rule of law?
How do you propose we make the conversation better?
You're implying racism when there might be none in order to bolster your weak argument.
By all means, tell me what their position is. Failing that, what's the charitable assumption to make here?
As far as I can see, the likely options are:
They support the genocide
They don't care about the rule of law
The former is more common in this context, but it's both weird and worthless of you to insert yourself into the conversation to defend someone's positions that (unless you can confidently answer this question) you don't understand. Just like that, you've derailed the conversation into this irrelevant shit - what was your complaint again? Oh...
As far as I can see, the likely options are:
You can't see very far then.
I don't agree with your position, so you're probably racist. Good day.
You forgot that alternative explanation you insist exists, champ.
Okay keyboard activist
Are you implying keyboard activism when there might be none in order to bolster your weak argument?
Trot on, you weird hypocritical defender of genocide deniers.
Quote where they denied genocide.
I'm not defending them. I'm pointing out your shit reasoning.
Are you 15 years old and trying to sound edgy and trendy? Are all your friends keyboard activists and you're feeling peer-pressured into typing nonsense?
The cynic in me thinks the IDF would not use $3000 in munitions to kill four random guys. Bullets are dirt cheap fpv bomb drones are expensive. From that I can only assume someone really wanted to kill one of them for some reason that we can not determine from the limited footage. I'm not saying war crimes including intentional starvation and indiscriminate fire are not happening but I don't think this is one of them this looks far too coordinated and planned to be a random act of aggression.
This isn't the first or even new example, it's been happening for years. Even to the point where Hamas and other militant groups claimed that the IDF was poor at infantry fighting which is why they overly rely on vehicles and standoff weapons.
I think it's just that because Israel is doing a large scale offensive, the fog of "they were Hamas" doesn't fly anymore so its much more reportable in the media, along with an increase of examples.
Israel is actually torturing and killing children and the Republican Party still supports them.
That's because none of them are unborn. Everyone knows that the Republican party supports children until they are born.
Well they were already born so clearly this is gOd'S pLaN.
.... and the majority of the world just shrugs their collective shoulders ....
Meh, waddaya gonna do?
At this point, our collective indifference to these atrocities makes us complicit.
No I think the majority of the world is appalled at what Israel is doing. It's the governments being pressured by Zionist organisations and also the risk of losing the only western ally in the Middle East.
Governments today don't represent their people anymore. Not when most democracies are voting for the lesser of two evils all the time.
We have so many allies in the middle east. We have countries with larger bases and countries with more bases. There's no military reason to keep supporting Israel.
What other allies? Who am I missing?
These guys-
https://images.app.goo.gl/YjCnr2rftUZpWPi18
Calling Israel terrorists is actually an insult to the meaning of terrorism
This is what pure evil looks like. Pure genocide.
Jfc. :'(
If Isreal keeps this up I wouldn't be surprised if the neo-nazis start gaining traction again.
Germany just had one of it's largest marches because the Neo-Nazis, Conservative Party, and Nationalists where caught plotting to take over the government and take Germany back to being controlled by some nationalist nazi party
As if they aren't already
Terrible
That's how easy we could finish putin's war. Nope, instead some random people who are probably innocent or at least not doing anything other than talking and walking, instead they get the several million gifts.
This is going to be unpopular, but how do we know they're non-combatants? Just because they're unarmed at the moment the video is filmed, doesn't make the non-combatants, AFAIK.
We're basing this on the opinion of a a biased reporter, who wached the video and described what they saw?
Disclaimer, required around here:
Fuck Israeli Government.
Fuck Hamas.
If Israel brought out video evidence of these specific guys doing stuff before then I'd agree. But with their track record the burden is definitely on them to prove these guys were combatants they just happened to catch unaware.
I'm sure the Israeli government has a lot of their hands right now to comment on every twitter video posted by a person who's location is set to Gaza.
If this is actually a war crime, I hope the culprits are punished accordingly.
Other than that, I'm going to treat this as yet another twitter video, without context, cut to fit an agenda, with some blood-boiling comment.
They're welcome to send that proof to the NYT.
If you've ever seen a Hamas video they sneak through the opnenings in the sides of buildings. They certainly don't walk around in the open like this without worries.
The burden of evidence lies on israel, and just like that time they drone striked an ambulance, no evidence will be presented.
We can't deduce shit from a video like this, especially when it's just posted on "X" by a strongly biased source.
I'll wait for a credible source to report on this, twitter bullshit can stay in twitter.
That's an interesting way to deny video evidence.
For someone who is constantly getting their shit removed and banned for misinformation, you sure seem confident that this video is evidence of anything.
Unless you were there, or capable of identifying the people in this video- you can only admit that you know absolutely NOTHING about it.
Anything less is misinformation and/or opinion and should be dismissed as such.
Lmao, you have no idea what those words mean.
Yep, there is no context for this and heavy framing in the article. I agree with both of your Disclamers, but this is just propaganda.
The context is the HD video footage of the IDF drone striking obvious unarmed civilians.
Where's the context showing these people were enemy combatants deserving a death sentence by drone strike? Do you always take the "guilty until proven innocent" line, or is this a race thing?
And this is how you turn a conversation into a pile of shit.
By pointing to evidence to back my claim and asking for consistent standards and something vaguely resembling the rule of law?
How do you propose we make the conversation better?
You're implying racism when there might be none in order to bolster your weak argument.
By all means, tell me what their position is. Failing that, what's the charitable assumption to make here?
As far as I can see, the likely options are:
They support the genocide
They don't care about the rule of law
The former is more common in this context, but it's both weird and worthless of you to insert yourself into the conversation to defend someone's positions that (unless you can confidently answer this question) you don't understand. Just like that, you've derailed the conversation into this irrelevant shit - what was your complaint again? Oh...
You can't see very far then.
I don't agree with your position, so you're probably racist. Good day.
You forgot that alternative explanation you insist exists, champ.
Okay keyboard activist
Are you implying keyboard activism when there might be none in order to bolster your weak argument?
Trot on, you weird hypocritical defender of genocide deniers.
Quote where they denied genocide.
I'm not defending them. I'm pointing out your shit reasoning.
Are you 15 years old and trying to sound edgy and trendy? Are all your friends keyboard activists and you're feeling peer-pressured into typing nonsense?
Genocide is the goal. How do you negotiate peace between 2 sides that 100 % believe the other side should be eradicated
One is an ally, and the other isn't. It should be clear how to resolve it.
Yeah, stop funding the genocidal ally.
For those that haven't seen the video yet:
NSFL(Death + Gore): Video mirror
Bombings at 1:00, 1:50 and 2:15
Slow mo compilation showing the bombs with red circles: NSFL ( Death + Gore): https://imgur.com/a/e1XWdfY
The cynic in me thinks the IDF would not use $3000 in munitions to kill four random guys. Bullets are dirt cheap fpv bomb drones are expensive. From that I can only assume someone really wanted to kill one of them for some reason that we can not determine from the limited footage. I'm not saying war crimes including intentional starvation and indiscriminate fire are not happening but I don't think this is one of them this looks far too coordinated and planned to be a random act of aggression.
This isn't the first or even new example, it's been happening for years. Even to the point where Hamas and other militant groups claimed that the IDF was poor at infantry fighting which is why they overly rely on vehicles and standoff weapons.
I think it's just that because Israel is doing a large scale offensive, the fog of "they were Hamas" doesn't fly anymore so its much more reportable in the media, along with an increase of examples.