Libertarian rule

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The state infringes on your liberty every time it lets a corporation infringe on your liberty.

Like, do people understand that entities that aren't the state can harm them?

They think it's a necessary cost of avoiding government oppression. They have some delusion that they're somehow mutually exclusive. They never consider: ¿Porque no los dos?

Depends on the person and the type. I've never met a libertarian that didn't at least pay lip service to regulatory capture and corporate rent seeking. They just don't follow those base ideas to the end point much of the time.

They often enough blame these problems on the state. Like we aren't capitalisming hard enough and if only the last remnants of regulation will fall, the shining light of free market economy will make everyone happier.

They fundamentally think that state power is (to varying extents) unethical. They also think human interaction should be voluntary (for the |ost part). It's awkward to think that people deserve to live and trade without interference and not think a group of people should be able to if they want.

Lots of people conflate capitalism, voluntary interaction, and whatever the fuck we have going on now. I won't get started on how fucked most people's view of (proper) left ideologies are.

So we line up, use proprietary language, and throw rocks at each other while shouting absurdly reductionist slogans.

David Graeber's book "Debt: The First 5,000 Years" really opened my eyes to the huge variety of economic systems that have existed. There's so many other ways we could be living.

You grossly overestimate the intelligence of libertarians.

Only 16 hours a day?? What are you doing with all that free time?? Communist stuff???

Bezos III got his wealth from hard work and winning in the free market, with enough hard work and winning you can be rich and powerful just like Bezos.

CEO, entrepreneur
Born in 1964
Jeffrey
Jeffrey Bezos

CEO, entrepreneur
Born in 1964
Jeffrey
Jeffrey Bezos

Come on, Jeffrey, you can do it
Pave the way, put your back into it

Tell us why
Show us how
Look at where you came from
Look at you now

Zuckerberg and Gates and Buffett
Amateurs can fucking suck it
Fuck their wives, drink their blood
Come on, Jeff, get 'em

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You move 16 tons and what do you get?

How the hell would Jeff Bezos succeed in a Librarian system? He has had the US government given his business tax breaks, subsidies for its work force and duties on foreign companies to bar competition. No this is not a librarian society, he operates in a protectionist society where he has already beaten any competition inside the country and the US government wants to protect "American" companies against foreign ones. Let's not lie, Amazon has brought a lot of conveniences, but it came at a cost and now it can buy any competition in the US before it can challenge it or lobby government before any foreign competition can become dominant. So continue to vote for presidents who vote to keep your job safe, makes it so much easier for them to exploit you

He has had the US government given his business tax breaks

You are right about the subsidization, but how are tax breaks even relevant in a Libertarian system that has no government that collects taxes?