President Biden told Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a call on Saturday that the U.S. won't support any Israeli counterattack against Iran, a senior White House official told Axios.
America is already involved ..
Without the billions of dollars we give them, and the military support of putting troopa and ships right off the coast, Israel never would have attacked Iran to begin with.
But even if that wasn't true, Biden has a horrible record of not assisting with Israels genocides.
Will it do any good to attempt to explain it again? Or the fact that grammatically there was an attack last night, so a response to that would be a counterattack? Probably not.
Let's just call it the counter-counterattck
So by your logic, every act of aggression involving Israel...
Has been a counterattack for foreign governments seizing land from natives and giving it to a religious group to found Israel?
Gotta say, never thought I'd agree with you. But yeah, that's accurate.
Attack. Counterattack. It's really very simple, and it doesn't matter where in the world it happens.
In my experience in the US at least, most of the people I interact with seem to believe Israel has always been it's own sovereign nation, and the only conflicts that have arisen have been started by others.
Also Current genocide "defensive attacks" against Gaza civilians "hamas" also totally just started this past year, definitely not an ongoing extermination.
No nation has “always” been a sovereign nation. The US has been one for less time than most of the developed world.
I refuse to acknowledge any further inciting or inflammatory comments from you.
Lmao if that's your takeaway from my comment, have fun I guess.
Perhaps reading comprehension courses would be in order.
Yep, it should have said counter-counter-attack to Iran. Btw attack on Iran after attack on Lebanon after genocide in Gaza is ok, Biden approves.
Great news. Hopefully that means if Israel does it anyway they will pay a price too heavy to bear, and we can put the whole "escalate to cover our Gaza situation" thing to bed.
Provided Israel doesn't say fuck it, we're going nuclear.
I don't see Iran going so hard that's on the table. The last strike was beautifully calibrated to re-establish deterrence while doing little politically useful damage, for example.
The real goal here for Israel is to bolster Netanyahu's hold on power. Iran would just have to hit back hard enough it makes his situation worse, not better, and they could safely do that without the US umbrella. Of course, it all depends on what "won't support" means. Time for me to read the article.
Edit: Still not clear.
Other articles I’ve seen were worded differently. They were clear we won’t attack Iran
Who are "they" and "we" in this context?
We - Americans.
They Israel
Yeah, that's what I worry about. Usually when it comes to the US on Israel "wouldn't support" means "would silently disapprove".
I have seen nothing to suggest we will cut aid or weapons. Just we won’t directly attack Iran.
I’m pro-Israel but the best way to end the escalation is to stop sending weapons at this point. I don’t see Iran attacking again unless Israel counter attacks.
We need to say stop it and make it clear, you counter attack and we cut aid.
Iran cannot invade Israel. Israel cannot invade Iran. Israel attacked a consulate. They started this and we can stop it
I thought that said "weren't" for whatever reason. Yeah, that's good then.
I'm not sure other pro-Israel people would call that pro-Israel, but I agree.
Allergies. It’s possible there are some typos. My eyes are on fire.
Pro-Israel doesn’t mean pro-escalation when they act poorly. We have rules to how the world works and they violated those by attacking the consulate.
Now they are trying to escalate a conflict with Iran.
We don’t need a war in the Middle East right now. We can reduce that by reducing aid.
American has become so partisan. You can support something but still have a redline.
Give us the facts then and skip the journos opinions
If you cheer on Iran's strikes on Israel, remember that in addition to Jewish Israelis, Arabs, Palestinians, Muslims & Christians could lose their lives in the attack. Iranian projectiles endanger Ramallah, Bethlehem, Nablus, Amman, Lebanon, Syria & Iraq. War's not an online game
remember that in addition to Jewish Israelis, Arabs, Palestinians, Muslims & Christians could lose their lives in the attack.
As do Israeli ones. And of course these are all rounding errors compared to what else is happening in Gaza.
I find it truly amusing when the Ceasefire Now crowd celebrates future attacks.
Isreal doesn't fly many air to ground missles. They use airplanes.
Im really curious as to what you think comes out of those airplanes. Maybe flowers? Love letters?
You see. I remark that missiles have landed in a lot of places putting a lot of different people in jeopardy. The response is "Isreal does too". Then i inform that Israel doesn't fly missiles. Comprende
I don't comprehend. Can you explain?
Read each from the top and when you get here I'll explain it again
I read your comments several times. I don't want you to explain it again. I want you to explain it better.
For example you say "Israel doesn't use many air to ground missiles. They fly airplanes." By definition air to ground missiles are launched from airplanes. Since this statement makes no sense, what did you mean to say?
Bottom line is Isreai won't throw missles all over the middle east, because they don't use air to ground missles
For example you say "Israel doesn't use many air to ground missiles. They fly airplanes." By definition air to ground missiles are launched from airplanes. Since this statement makes no sense, what did you mean to say
Missles fly. By definition they all come the air. Where they are supposed to land is what is important. An airplane can lauch an air to air or a air to ground or an air to ship. The same is true on the ground. Isreal launches air to air through the Iron Dome, but what it doesn't do, as Iran did last night, is launch air to ground from a launcher
The iron dome fires surface-to-air missiles. Iran fired surface-to-surface missiles.
I was not celebrating future warfare. I was hoping to avoid it, and you or anyone else can read it.
"Hopefully that means if Israel does it anyway they will pay a price too heavy to bear,"
That wasn't you huh.
Even if we're lying by omission of context,
if Israel does it anyway
What does that even mean?
Some retaliation seems necessary. Unless someone hits back the israeli bullying will continue. Bidens refusal to tell israel to stop trying to start WW3 is what got us here to begin with.
While sad, the Iranian attack did achieve its goals. Create an expensive interception barrage for israel while not resulting in major escalation.
Good. Next he needs to hold Israel accountable to the International law agreement for the weapons the US has provided.
My hope is that he's building up to that. The continued escalation in criticism suggests that's what he's doing; immediately cutting off aid will signal to other allies that he's capricious and having an insufficient legal justification will open him up to impeachment and removal. Of course, it could all be show for the base.
Why would Netanyahu believe him? I certainly don't. Slaughtering tens of thousands of people has gotten the same kind of "warnings" followed by billions more in lethal aid.
right? this is just their PR talking.
No one actually believes that. This coming from the same guy that says ceasefire while they replenish weapons and draft an additional aid package.
So they won't be warming up the 52's on Diego Garcia.
America is already involved ..
Without the billions of dollars we give them, and the military support of putting troopa and ships right off the coast, Israel never would have attacked Iran to begin with.
But even if that wasn't true, Biden has a horrible record of not assisting with Israels genocides.
As it says, counterattack.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/02/world/middleeast/iran-israel-damascus-strike.html
What Iran just did was the counterattack.
Will it do any good to attempt to explain it again? Or the fact that grammatically there was an attack last night, so a response to that would be a counterattack? Probably not.
Let's just call it the counter-counterattck
So by your logic, every act of aggression involving Israel...
Has been a counterattack for foreign governments seizing land from natives and giving it to a religious group to found Israel?
Gotta say, never thought I'd agree with you. But yeah, that's accurate.
Attack. Counterattack. It's really very simple, and it doesn't matter where in the world it happens.
I think they just mistakenly believe that the conflict that’s been going on for 40 years started last week.
I’ve been seeing that a lot lately.
In my experience in the US at least, most of the people I interact with seem to believe Israel has always been it's own sovereign nation, and the only conflicts that have arisen have been started by others.
Also Current
genocide"defensive attacks" againstGaza civilians"hamas" also totally just started this past year, definitely not an ongoing extermination.No nation has “always” been a sovereign nation. The US has been one for less time than most of the developed world.
I refuse to acknowledge any further inciting or inflammatory comments from you.
Lmao if that's your takeaway from my comment, have fun I guess.
Perhaps reading comprehension courses would be in order.
Yep, it should have said counter-counter-attack to Iran. Btw attack on Iran after attack on Lebanon after genocide in Gaza is ok, Biden approves.
Great news. Hopefully that means if Israel does it anyway they will pay a price too heavy to bear, and we can put the whole "escalate to cover our Gaza situation" thing to bed.
Provided Israel doesn't say fuck it, we're going nuclear.
I don't see Iran going so hard that's on the table. The last strike was beautifully calibrated to re-establish deterrence while doing little politically useful damage, for example.
The real goal here for Israel is to bolster Netanyahu's hold on power. Iran would just have to hit back hard enough it makes his situation worse, not better, and they could safely do that without the US umbrella. Of course, it all depends on what "won't support" means. Time for me to read the article.
Edit: Still not clear.
Other articles I’ve seen were worded differently. They were clear we won’t attack Iran
Who are "they" and "we" in this context?
We - Americans. They Israel
Yeah, that's what I worry about. Usually when it comes to the US on Israel "wouldn't support" means "would silently disapprove".I have seen nothing to suggest we will cut aid or weapons. Just we won’t directly attack Iran.
I’m pro-Israel but the best way to end the escalation is to stop sending weapons at this point. I don’t see Iran attacking again unless Israel counter attacks.
We need to say stop it and make it clear, you counter attack and we cut aid.
Iran cannot invade Israel. Israel cannot invade Iran. Israel attacked a consulate. They started this and we can stop it
I thought that said "weren't" for whatever reason. Yeah, that's good then.
I'm not sure other pro-Israel people would call that pro-Israel, but I agree.
Allergies. It’s possible there are some typos. My eyes are on fire. Pro-Israel doesn’t mean pro-escalation when they act poorly. We have rules to how the world works and they violated those by attacking the consulate. Now they are trying to escalate a conflict with Iran.
We don’t need a war in the Middle East right now. We can reduce that by reducing aid.
American has become so partisan. You can support something but still have a redline.
Give us the facts then and skip the journos opinions
If you cheer on Iran's strikes on Israel, remember that in addition to Jewish Israelis, Arabs, Palestinians, Muslims & Christians could lose their lives in the attack. Iranian projectiles endanger Ramallah, Bethlehem, Nablus, Amman, Lebanon, Syria & Iraq. War's not an online game
Why would I care about them more?
As do Israeli ones. And of course these are all rounding errors compared to what else is happening in Gaza.
I find it truly amusing when the Ceasefire Now crowd celebrates future attacks.
Isreal doesn't fly many air to ground missles. They use airplanes.
Im really curious as to what you think comes out of those airplanes. Maybe flowers? Love letters?
You see. I remark that missiles have landed in a lot of places putting a lot of different people in jeopardy. The response is "Isreal does too". Then i inform that Israel doesn't fly missiles. Comprende
I don't comprehend. Can you explain?
Read each from the top and when you get here I'll explain it again
I read your comments several times. I don't want you to explain it again. I want you to explain it better.
For example you say "Israel doesn't use many air to ground missiles. They fly airplanes." By definition air to ground missiles are launched from airplanes. Since this statement makes no sense, what did you mean to say?
Bottom line is Isreai won't throw missles all over the middle east, because they don't use air to ground missles
Missles fly. By definition they all come the air. Where they are supposed to land is what is important. An airplane can lauch an air to air or a air to ground or an air to ship. The same is true on the ground. Isreal launches air to air through the Iron Dome, but what it doesn't do, as Iran did last night, is launch air to ground from a launcher
The iron dome fires surface-to-air missiles. Iran fired surface-to-surface missiles.
I was not celebrating future warfare. I was hoping to avoid it, and you or anyone else can read it.
That wasn't you huh.
Even if we're lying by omission of context,
What does that even mean?
Some retaliation seems necessary. Unless someone hits back the israeli bullying will continue. Bidens refusal to tell israel to stop trying to start WW3 is what got us here to begin with.
The Iranian strikes were targeted on israeli air bases. Ironically one person that was critically injured was a Palestinian girl hit by the shrapnel of an interception.
While sad, the Iranian attack did achieve its goals. Create an expensive interception barrage for israel while not resulting in major escalation.
Good. Next he needs to hold Israel accountable to the International law agreement for the weapons the US has provided.
My hope is that he's building up to that. The continued escalation in criticism suggests that's what he's doing; immediately cutting off aid will signal to other allies that he's capricious and having an insufficient legal justification will open him up to impeachment and removal. Of course, it could all be show for the base.
Why would Netanyahu believe him? I certainly don't. Slaughtering tens of thousands of people has gotten the same kind of "warnings" followed by billions more in lethal aid.
right? this is just their PR talking.
No one actually believes that. This coming from the same guy that says ceasefire while they replenish weapons and draft an additional aid package.
So they won't be warming up the 52's on Diego Garcia.