Anti-Anti-Trumpers Say the Character Issue Between Biden and Trump Is a Tie

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Anti-Anti-Trumpers Say the Character Issue Between Biden and Trump Is a Tie
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I mean just look at all the scandals Biden is embroiled in, all the indictments of people in his administration. When you find them, let me know.

I mean there is the one involving corruption with his son.

The son who is not part of his father's administration? Not every president leans heavily into nepotism, you know.

Dumb is dumb, no matter how smart you try to sound. Have you not been paying attention? Do you watch CNN or something? You know nothing about the the Bidens. Or Joe for that matter.

I'm not advocating its true, I don't know if it is or not. I am presenting the argument that some Republicans make.

They didn't ask for arguments, they asked for examples of indictments. Why are you presenting, as an answer to that question, examples that you're ignorant about?

Indictments of people in the administration.

Difficult to produce indictments when your whole administration is covering for each other, right up to the petty amount of cocaine bags being left by uNkOwN ViSiToRs.

It is difficult, and yet hundreds of Trump administration officials have been indicted for their obvious crimes.

Look, I'm a progressive, so I don't like Biden very much. I am not surprised that someone found drugs in the West Wing, either. I would bet if you turned out the pockets in the capitol building, you'd get enough coke to kill an elephant. Politicians and political activists are competitive, unscrupulous people, and I don't condone cocaine abuse. But on the scale of accused crimes, somebody doing drugs in the bathroom pales in comparison to any of the scandalous crimes Trump officials have been convicted of.

eh, that still reads very much like a propaganda take. Americans need to stop getting their news from fedoutlets and MSM. Even the progressives who were generally more independent minded and harder to sway are becoming incapable of seeing what's actually going on.

I don't think that progressives are unaware of the corruption, but I think neoliberals and MAGAts want to pretend that bOtH sIdEs SaMe to blur the choice, or discourage voting entirely. The character issues between Biden and Trump are not a tie. That's not a defense of Biden, that's a criticism of Trump.

You actually have no idea what you are talking. I know you think you do. But you don't. You think because you tune into Fox news, and maybe even read a couple 4chan threads, googled QAnon conspiracis, that you understand what's going on. But you actually don't. And here's how I know you don't. You're still focused on Trump. If you had any idea of what was really going on, Trump would be the least and last of our worries. And may in fact, be the thing we actually need. That I am an independent saying that, is probably one of the most bizarre and downright insensible things I would have accused myself of saying 2 years ago. I've gotten wiser to what's going on since. And so should you.

That I am an independent

Here's how I know that's not true.

You think criticizing Trump in a thread about Trump is fixating on Trump.

You think that Trump "may, in fact, be the thing we actually need." No. Full stop. Trump is a syringe of poop, and you're advocating we inject it into our veins. There is no scenario where Trump improves anything, no problem he could solve, no benefit he brings to the table. And thinking he could help is evidence of a diseased mind.

I've gotten wiser to what's going on since.

That may be true, but it sounds like you're neck deep in conspiracy theories and bullshit, and you're just happy it's not in your mouth anymore.

that traitorous shit stain is the last thing we need in the white house. ill take manchin or sinema or even the turtle himself before that traitorous shit gibbon.

perhaps the secret service should wipe their phones so we never find out what happened.

They said scandals.

They said scandals AND indictments. Republican nonsense is neither.

I interpreted the and in a different way than you.

Incorrect isn't a valid interpretation. They said scandals and indictments IN THE ADMINISTRATION. Republican nonsense is neither.

Biden is a part of his own administration. The accusation is that he colluded with is son in corruption.

Ah so the mask is off and now you're openly advocating for republican nonsense. You have lost this point. Take the L, son.

Browse this users comment history. They're a troll. Starvation is the move with that lot.

Ah so the mask is off and now you’re openly advocating for republican nonsense.

No? There is a difference between conveying someone's argument and agreeing with it. I understand ISIS's argument, I just don't agree with it.

It's actually incredibly strange to see the Biden corruption being treated like a question. People really need to get their head out of their ass. "Oh.. Biden corruption? Say it isn't so!!"

Is he his son?

The argument is that he used his influence to help his son's business deals

and yet crickets about jared who actually did get help on his business deals while actually in the white house. im still wondering why he was bailed out of that building he was underwater with. or why he got billions from the saudis after leaving the white house while still having access to trumps cache of classified information.

Fair questions, Trump's family was always way too involved in the administration. Not very meritocratic

Yeah, the regular old mathematics and/or English rules apply here. The two minuses cancel out. These are just Trumpers.

Us. vs Them thinking is the biggest sign of brainwashing. Large amounts of independent voters are going over to the conservativ side because of exactly opinions like this. There are still large amounts of moderate progressives and liberals who aren't woke that share concerns with varying political platforms, and lately, more and more of their concerns are becoming distinctly flavored and heard in conservative spaces because they are the only ones willing to engage with the skepticism.

It's becoming more common for regular people who when asking legitimate questions that pertain to the future of this country, the best they can get out of the left is, "JuSt tRUmPErS."

In effect, for disliking someone as much as you seem to, the left is practically paving the way for him by trying to marginalize his base even further. People are asking questions now and QAnon isn't starting to seem so crazy to lots of people. And whether you think their concerns are well founded or not, is irrelevant. They do.

So, to avoid "Us vs Them thinking", one should probably not say they're trying to destroy their opposition, yes?

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I’m Anti-Anti- that headline

im anti infinity plus one trump. Infinitiy is an even number yeah?

I’m anti-anti-anti…fa

Wait, counts with fingers no, yeah, I think that’s correct

i guess thats why theyre both facing equal numbers of federal, state, and civil cases against them

But what do the Anti-Anti-Anti-Anti-Anti Trump supporters think?