New York police will use drones to monitor backyard parties this weekend, spurring privacy concerns

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New York police will use drones to monitor backyard parties this weekend, spurring privacy concerns
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The New York City police department plans to pilot the unmanned aircrafts in response to complaints about large gatherings, including private events, over Labor Day weekend, officials announced Thursday.

“If a caller states there’s a large crowd, a large party in a backyard, we’re going to be utilizing our assets to go up and go check on the party,” Kaz Daughtry, the assistant NYPD Commissioner, said at a press conference.

The plan drew immediate backlash from privacy and civil liberties advocates, raising questions about whether such drone use violated existing laws for police surveillance.

“It’s a troubling announcement and it flies in the face of the POST Act,” said Daniel Schwarz, a privacy and technology strategist at the New York Civil Liberties Union, referring to a 2020 city law that requires the NYPD to disclose its surveillance tactics. “Deploying drones in this way is a sci-fi inspired scenario.”

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Is it illegal to have house parties in NYC? Why is the NYPD busting up keggers like campus police?

It becomes illegal when there are too many people there, or there is violence, underage drinking, drug usage, and if it's too loud, the attendees are parking in the street blocking traffic, fire risks all sorts of shit

They are not responding to complains, they are searching themselves.

EDIT: my eyes. They are responding. Still very wierd. Crowd itself is not a crime, article 20 of DoHR says so.

The article specifically says in response to complaints...

It will be construed as, they can start indefinite surveillance on an area after a complaint is filed at any time.

"Someone complained 3 weeks ago so we're just checking it out"

Those sound like things they need a warrant to learn about in a place with a reasonable expectation of privacy.

It is illegal to have to many people at your own home? That's a new one.

Only in the context of like, fire safety. You can't have more people in a building than it is designed to safely hold.

Of course, cops use this safety regulation as an excuse to control people and be dicks...

That's all stuff people can call the cops for, no need for surveillance.

So you didn't read the article?

They say 'if a caller reports a large crowd, they'll send a drone', not 'if a crime is reported'. That's still surveillance, being in a large crowd isn't a crime by itself.

It was an incomplete article that did not properly explain what the supposed legitimate issue is.

So the cops and fuck with your backyard party if you smoke a joint?

Joint? Nah, hard drugs, fo sho (unless you are a billionaire).

How would a drone know? Other than capacity and street violations, there's nothing that a drone should realistically be able to identify.

I think the drone operators would do the identifying part

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no, as grass is legal in nyc now, but if you're blowing lines and smoking crack, trippin balls, or tweakin, they probably should, you know, for the kids in the neighborhood you nincompoop

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