Hell freezes over, MS Paint adds support for layers and PNG transparency

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Automated background removal was also added recently.

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Better hold on to your pants, Photoshop. Here's the new contender!

As GIMP cries in the corner.

GIMP 3.0 stomps door with sexy moustache

As it should, I've tried twice to use GIMP, always gone back to Photoshop.

For how relatively well known it is (it's probably like the next most well known piece of FOSS after Linux and Blender) I can't believe how bad a piece of software GIMP is.

I hope you mean the UX. I think attacking it's functionality would be unfair. It does everything good and right .... technically.

If the UX is objectively bad or "just" subjectively might be hard to find out. I would assume if there are objective UX mistakes, some contributor might have been able to deal with that by now. But of course it doesn't change anything if a majority doesn't like it for subjectice reasons. It's part of UX design to deal with subjective aspects.

Not having adjustment layers is a pretty big deal

Or you know, being able to rearrange layers.

Or color spasecs other than sRGB (8 bits/channel). I've a camera that takes 10 bits/channel photos, a monitor that displays 10 bits/channel, etc. But GIMP will just distort the colors because they hard-coded the color space! Can't edit for print either, no CMYK. GIMP is an image editor for the noughties, not the 2020s.

Then again, we're talking about MS Paint here. If Paint fills your needs, GIMP will be fine.

Not just 10bit. The Linux version still makes 8bit images more purple after saving.

If Paint fills your needs, GIMP will be fine.

Disagree. Paint's function is to be the Notepad of images, something not very powerful but quick and dead simple.

GIMP is needlessly hard to use.

Good news for you, if they ever get around to releasing gimp 3

as a doofus gimp user, what's an adjustment layer?

Not a professional either, but I was also curious and learned:

It's a layer of which the properties/filters apply to all layers below. So you can basically try around and manipulate the visible image without having to combine the layers first.

I've been waiting for years for "non-destructive edition" (AKA smart objects). It's a fundamental feature that I use (almost?) always as a first step. IMHO a lof of professional work is not practical without it.

They had it on the roadmap (see 2020 archive) for years marked as "No[t started]". The current roadmap looks more promising with "link layers" marked as WIP and saying it could be available on GIMP 3.0.2.

ive been stuck with gimp and now ive been stockholm syndromed into liking it

I use Gimp a lot.

It does its job very well, but that job is not to be an alternative to photoshop.

I used GIMP before Photoshop and I still massively prefer GIMP.

I really think its a case of what you got used to first.

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Paint is not designed to be GIMP/Photoshop alternative. It is just a simple drawing program. Although it is great that they have finally added these long-awaited features, as I may finally move from paint.net, which is also great but it has one huge drawback - it is not a single window, which is a hassle.

been using photopea for years, highly recommended for quick projects!

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