‘Nobody’s hands are clean’: Obama urges reflection amid Israel-Hamas conflict

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‘Nobody’s hands are clean’: Obama urges reflection amid Israel-Hamas conflict
politico.com

Former President Barack Obama cautioned against ignoring the complexities of the Israel-Hamas war, warning that “all of us are complicit.”

“If you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth. And you then have to admit nobody’s hands are clean, that all of us are complicit to some degree,” he said in an excerpted interview with Pod Save America released Saturday.

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And he’s 100% correct.

Thank you so much.

This is way more complex than it's getting credit for.

It always has been.

Anyway, I miss having a better leader. He was just so presidential. Not perfect, but no one can be.

he was a piece of shit. an eloquent neolib piece of shit. easy to reminisce about the better times when the last 2 presidents have been trash.

Who were the top three presidents in your mind and why?

none none and none.

turn cnn off and look at voting records, actions, military occupation, campaign finance etc and you’ll see why.

turn cnn off…

Really?

Can’t you pick a more interesting talking point then that boring bullshit?

pick a more interesting talking point than the presidents of the largest genocidal project in the world

Yawn.

Hexbears is that way in case you’re lost, buds.

I know your user name from reddit. Small world and disgustingly memorable username well done

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Even the dead children?

What does this even mean?

They're trying to do a "gotcha." What they mean is, "Are even the dead children responsible for the situation they were in?"

It's a fallacy; appeal to emotion. Obviously the dead children aren't reading this, or hearing the words that "all of us are complicit." Instead of thinking as a rational person would that the audience being addressed by those words are the people to who that phrase would apply, they did a rapid-fire, emotion-based response because they want to feel right and superior, instead of taking the mature, nuanced approach.

Orrrr, maybe they’re talking about how Palestinian children are blamed for throwing rocks at tanks.

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@roofuskit
That's what I thought when I saw the headline but he's actually talking about state actors when you read the context:

“All this is taking place against the backdrop of decades of failure to achieve a durable peace for both Israelis and Palestinians, one that is based on genuine security for Israel, a recognition of its right to exist, and a peace that is based on an end of the occupation and the creation of a viable state and self-determination for the Palestinian people,” he added.

Especially the dead children. They were obviously bad because they chose to get born into the wrong place. Jesus hates them and had them killed for a reason. They should have chosen to get borned into a nice white Christian family in America.

  • some dumbass cracker evangelical, probably.
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