If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:
Updated 01/08/2024
Washington, D.C. 4 federal felonies January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 4th, 2024, one day before Super Tuesday primaries.
Jack Smith had requested that the Supreme Court immediately rule on Trump's immunity defense, the Court rejected the request, requiring it to go through the usual appeals process first.
Conviction
Sentencing
New York 34 state felonies Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Florida 40 federal felonies Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.
The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one. That trial date is currently set for January 15th, the same day as the Iowa caucus. and has now been determined to be for damages only as Trump was already found liable.
As a function of the January 6th and Georgia trials, there are now lawsuits in two states to bar Trump from the primary ballot based on the insurrection clause of the 14th Amendment.
Colorado:
12/19/23 - The Colorado Supreme Court has ruled that Trump is not eligible for the primary ballot due to being barred by the 14th Amendment as an insurrectionist.
This should be updated with the US Supreme Court hearing the appeal against Colorado Supreme Court removing Trump from the ballot, which will start being heard on 8 Feb.
Yeah, I'll get that added! Also waiting on a date for the Maine ruling.
Thank you for collecting all this information in one place, it is appreciated! Does a website or blog exist where this information is posted and updated? If not, there should be.
Not to my knowledge. I started putting it together on reddit because there were enough investigations going on, any time there was news, people would complain "why isn't he in jail already!!?!" and I'm like "No, no, you don't get it... this isn't a TV show, it's a whole PROCESS..."
That’s not how the legal system works. If you come at the king you best not miss and jack has no interest in missing.
I’d rather have an air tight case given how slippery Trump has been. You clearly understand how difficult this is yet here you are advocating for a rush job.
Let him cook.
It's been three fucking years. I strenuously object to the notion that building even an airtight case for crimes we all witnessed live on national fucking TV really needed to take this goddamn long!
For perspective, by this amount of time had passed after the Beer Hall Putsch, Hitler had been arrested, tried, convicted, imprisoned, wrote a shitty book, and pardoned and released again. If even the Weimar fucking Republic -- damn near a failed state -- could manage that, what do these ridiculous delays say about us?!
Remind me what happened to Hitler after that prosecution?
He was convicted and imprisoned. Are you implying the fact that he got pardoned means that wasn't what they should have done? Do you think if they moved slower or did something else different Hitler wouldn't have been pardoned somehow?
In principle I agree. But the truth is the GOP has gone fully rogue. They aren't even playing the same game, let alone by the same rules. The more latitude Trump and those in thrall to him are afforded, the more likely an actual, effective, coup is executed. The deeper into the process Trump gets, the more legitimaized he becomes. The more legitimaized he becomes the more the "implications" increase. Basically he needs to be removed from the game as soon as possible because time is a huge factor. He's very good at stall tactics, and he is very good at making sure things do or do not stay in the public consciousness. In short, the most dangerous thing you can give Trump to play with is time.
Or just stringing it out and managing to win the next election (probably by more effective cheating)
We've already missed on multiple occasions and it's showing now.
No more half measures, Walter
I'm with you on the legal side, but on the media side, wtf. I'm tired of having to check whether each piece of new, devastating evidence is in fact a) new and not some new wrapper around an article from yesterday b) actually devastating, not routine filing and c) relevant at all.
That's no dig at this particular article, but these headlines are inducing a "shit or get off the pot" mentality as far as trying to keep up.
Edit: I would like to note that this headline engages in speculation (note the word "may"). That is some "shit or get off the pot" shit. I'm tired of what "may" happen. At least in the headline. Speculation has its place. It's in the body of a well-sourced article.
The media has been milking the nations politics for a long time now. In 2016 CBS CEO was quoted saying Trump was making them lots of money. It’s the same thing here, they think they can outlast the fascism so they don’t seem to care about the damage it does
Not to say that those that write articles about how extra doomed Trump is this time for sure but probably not yet….. are hurting the nation like CBS did with Trump but it does have a negative effect.
I guess they don’t want people to forget but the fatigue is real. That’s part of trumps delay tactic and his bullshit as a whole for that matter
If the legal system cannot hold Trump accountable before hes able to get elected president and make these investigations stop then the legal system doesn't work. A system that cannot protect itself from the people it's supposed to punish is fundamentally broken, and that's looking like where we are. Cling to the broken system and you should expect broken results.
All that can be true and rushing it would still be a worse option.
We are nowhere near rushing it, its been three years. We are actively slow walking, all we need to do it treat him like we treat people without wealth, but we cannot. There's a massive amount of space between 'rushing it' and what we are doing right now.
Imagine if they miss just one little thing and he gets off on a technicality. He would absolutely escalate the dictatorship bs and justify it all by pointing to his non conviction or a successful appeal.
You say it is being actively slow walked. Based on what? Cannon is slow walking the FL documents case, but Jack Smith is running a "speedy trial" in DC. So is Willis in GA. Trump's NY fraud case is finishing up after a pretty standard length trial given the amount of info that needed to be presented.
If these are intentionally slow trials, then what should the timelines have been instead?
Wait, are we cooking or are we shitting? Because those are very different pots...
Shit or get off the pot.
If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:
Updated 01/08/2024
Washington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 4th, 2024, one day before Super Tuesday primaries.
Jack Smith had requested that the Supreme Court immediately rule on Trump's immunity defense, the Court rejected the request, requiring it to go through the usual appeals process first.
Conviction
Sentencing
New York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Florida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing
Georgia
13 state felonies
Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
All 19 defendants have surrendered.
Trial - A trial date of Aug. 5, 2024 has been requested, not approved yet.
Three defendants, Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, and bail bondsman Scott Hall, have all pled guilty and have agreed to testify in other cases.
The judge in the case has set a deadline of December 1st for all motions to be filed, expect a trial date at some point after that.
Conviction
Sentencing
Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, or the Arizona fake electors, have not been announced.
The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one. That trial date is currently set for January 15th, the same day as the Iowa caucus. and has now been determined to be for damages only as Trump was already found liable.
As a function of the January 6th and Georgia trials, there are now lawsuits in two states to bar Trump from the primary ballot based on the insurrection clause of the 14th Amendment.
Colorado:
12/19/23 - The Colorado Supreme Court has ruled that Trump is not eligible for the primary ballot due to being barred by the 14th Amendment as an insurrectionist.
The Supreme Court has agreed to hear arguments starting Thursday, February 8th.
Minnesota:
11/8/2023 - State Supreme Court denies challenge, allows ballot access.
Maine:
12/29/2023 - Maine's Secretary of State has ruled that Trump is not qualified for the ballot., which is now being challenged.
A long-shot write in candidate for President has also filed suits seeking to bar Trump from the ballot in Florida, Kansas, Montana, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Utah, Wisconsin and Wyoming.
His cases in Arizona, California, Idaho, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, and West Virginia have been thrown out:
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/federal-judge-dismisses-trump-eligibility-challenge-in-arizona/
https://ballot-access.org/2023/12/17/john-anthony-castro-voluntarily-dismisses-his-california-anti-trump-ballot-access-lawsuit/
https://ballot-access.org/2023/10/12/john-anthony-castro-dismisses-his-idaho-lawsuit-on-trump-ballot-access/
https://www.wmur.com/article/new-hampshire-donald-trump-ballot-lawsuit-dismiss/45682757
https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/politics/2023/11/27/trump-keeps-right-to-be-on-presidential-ballot-in-ri/71720185007/
https://wvmetronews.com/2023/12/22/lawsuit-to-boot-trump-off-west-virginia-ballots-is-dismissed-because-plaintiff-lacks-standing/p
This should be updated with the US Supreme Court hearing the appeal against Colorado Supreme Court removing Trump from the ballot, which will start being heard on 8 Feb.
Yeah, I'll get that added! Also waiting on a date for the Maine ruling.
Thank you for collecting all this information in one place, it is appreciated! Does a website or blog exist where this information is posted and updated? If not, there should be.
Not to my knowledge. I started putting it together on reddit because there were enough investigations going on, any time there was news, people would complain "why isn't he in jail already!!?!" and I'm like "No, no, you don't get it... this isn't a TV show, it's a whole PROCESS..."
So I set out to show the process:
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing
For crimes of this magnitude it takes YEARS.
That’s not how the legal system works. If you come at the king you best not miss and jack has no interest in missing.
I’d rather have an air tight case given how slippery Trump has been. You clearly understand how difficult this is yet here you are advocating for a rush job.
Let him cook.
It's been three fucking years. I strenuously object to the notion that building even an airtight case for crimes we all witnessed live on national fucking TV really needed to take this goddamn long!
For perspective, by this amount of time had passed after the Beer Hall Putsch, Hitler had been arrested, tried, convicted, imprisoned, wrote a shitty book, and pardoned and released again. If even the Weimar fucking Republic -- damn near a failed state -- could manage that, what do these ridiculous delays say about us?!
Remind me what happened to Hitler after that prosecution?
He was convicted and imprisoned. Are you implying the fact that he got pardoned means that wasn't what they should have done? Do you think if they moved slower or did something else different Hitler wouldn't have been pardoned somehow?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch
This is before Hitler rolled over Europe.
Hitler didn't base his society on lawyers
In principle I agree. But the truth is the GOP has gone fully rogue. They aren't even playing the same game, let alone by the same rules. The more latitude Trump and those in thrall to him are afforded, the more likely an actual, effective, coup is executed. The deeper into the process Trump gets, the more legitimaized he becomes. The more legitimaized he becomes the more the "implications" increase. Basically he needs to be removed from the game as soon as possible because time is a huge factor. He's very good at stall tactics, and he is very good at making sure things do or do not stay in the public consciousness. In short, the most dangerous thing you can give Trump to play with is time.
Or just stringing it out and managing to win the next election (probably by more effective cheating)
We've already missed on multiple occasions and it's showing now.
No more half measures, Walter
I'm with you on the legal side, but on the media side, wtf. I'm tired of having to check whether each piece of new, devastating evidence is in fact a) new and not some new wrapper around an article from yesterday b) actually devastating, not routine filing and c) relevant at all.
That's no dig at this particular article, but these headlines are inducing a "shit or get off the pot" mentality as far as trying to keep up.
Edit: I would like to note that this headline engages in speculation (note the word "may"). That is some "shit or get off the pot" shit. I'm tired of what "may" happen. At least in the headline. Speculation has its place. It's in the body of a well-sourced article.
The media has been milking the nations politics for a long time now. In 2016 CBS CEO was quoted saying Trump was making them lots of money. It’s the same thing here, they think they can outlast the fascism so they don’t seem to care about the damage it does
Not to say that those that write articles about how extra doomed Trump is this time for sure but probably not yet….. are hurting the nation like CBS did with Trump but it does have a negative effect.
I guess they don’t want people to forget but the fatigue is real. That’s part of trumps delay tactic and his bullshit as a whole for that matter
If the legal system cannot hold Trump accountable before hes able to get elected president and make these investigations stop then the legal system doesn't work. A system that cannot protect itself from the people it's supposed to punish is fundamentally broken, and that's looking like where we are. Cling to the broken system and you should expect broken results.
All that can be true and rushing it would still be a worse option.
We are nowhere near rushing it, its been three years. We are actively slow walking, all we need to do it treat him like we treat people without wealth, but we cannot. There's a massive amount of space between 'rushing it' and what we are doing right now.
Imagine if they miss just one little thing and he gets off on a technicality. He would absolutely escalate the dictatorship bs and justify it all by pointing to his non conviction or a successful appeal.
You say it is being actively slow walked. Based on what? Cannon is slow walking the FL documents case, but Jack Smith is running a "speedy trial" in DC. So is Willis in GA. Trump's NY fraud case is finishing up after a pretty standard length trial given the amount of info that needed to be presented.
If these are intentionally slow trials, then what should the timelines have been instead?
Wait, are we cooking or are we shitting? Because those are very different pots...
Isn't the trial date already set? This is just an article about some random "expert opinion," not something actually from the case.
I'm so tired of these that I'm nimb to it. I've resigned myself to a bleak Donald Trump filled future.
Dont
Convict or I’ll lose whatever faith I have left in this shithole of a country.